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VIDEO: Are crime maps welcome in your area?
CRIME maps showing where and how often offences are committed could be seen on the internet from next month.
The Met is currently testing electronic crime mapping software and plans to launch the system in September, after a technical review.
Interactive maps will sit alongside monthly crime statistics published on the Met police website and will provide details of the number, rate and geographical location of defined crime types on a ward, borough and pan-London basis.
A test map can be viewed online at maps.met.police.uk.
By clicking on a borough, you can see the figures for burglary, robbery and vehicle crime and comparison figures from previous years.
According to the map the crime rate in the Bromley, Lewisham and Greenwich boroughs is average for London.
And Bexley is below average.
Crime maps have been used in the US - notably in Chicago, New York and Los Angeles - where police departments show incidents at a house-to-house level.
News Shopper went to Burnt Ash Hill in Lee - the scene of the murder of teenager Jimmy Mizen on May 10 - to find out what people think about crime maps.
Watch the video to hear their views.
2:02pm Friday 15th August 2008
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CommentPosted by: jayjay, here on 3:08pm Fri 15 Aug 08
How about they just hand out leaflets on the street corner letting the thiefs know which area to target as the police are concentrating on the Crime Hot Spots!
How about they just hand out leaflets on the street corner letting the thiefs know which area to target as the police are concentrating on the Crime Hot Spots!
Posted by: Posh nosh, State side. on 4:05pm Fri 15 Aug 08
Good.
At least the unsightly will move over to another neighbourhood and leave us alone.
Good.
At least the unsightly will move over to another neighbourhood and leave us alone.
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 9:38pm Fri 15 Aug 08
perhaps we should have maps showing 'crime related incidents' too
perhaps we should have maps showing 'crime related incidents' too
Posted by: Diane, Bromley on 11:24pm Fri 15 Aug 08
[quote][bold]cassie[/bold] wrote:
perhaps we should have maps showing \'crime related incidents\' too[/quote] Shame that they don't warn about what area boring people live in, so we can steer well clear. I bet you're a real blast at parties.
cassie wrote:
perhaps we should have maps showing \'crime related incidents\' too
Shame that they don't warn about what area boring people live in, so we can steer well clear. I bet you're a real blast at parties.
Posted by: Excalibur, Bromley on 11:29pm Fri 15 Aug 08
How about applying the same principles to the judiciary? Why not have a website that members of the public can log into which lists all of our magistrates and all of our judges. Upon clicking on their name, it would reveal a list by type (ie. burglary, robbery, assault) of the cases that they had been responsible for when someone had been convicted - and the sentence that was handed down. That way we could immediately see where the weak links in the criminal justice system are. We'd know exactly who is releasing the criminals back into our community to commit further offences............
....and exactly who was responsible for the Fear of Crime' in a particular area.
This would have the fantastic added benefit of holding a number of politicians to account, if our experience here in Bromley is anything to go by. You'd be amazed at the number of magistrates that are local councillors - he who speaks with a forked tongue, etc, etc!
What a fantastic idea, if I may say so myself!
How about applying the same principles to the judiciary? Why not have a website that members of the public can log into which lists all of our magistrates and all of our judges. Upon clicking on their name, it would reveal a list by type (ie. burglary, robbery, assault) of the cases that they had been responsible for when someone had been convicted - and the sentence that was handed down. That way we could immediately see where the weak links in the criminal justice system are. We'd know exactly who is releasing the criminals back into our community to commit further offences............
....and exactly who was responsible for the Fear of Crime' in a particular area.
This would have the fantastic added benefit of holding a number of politicians to account, if our experience here in Bromley is anything to go by. You'd be amazed at the number of magistrates that are local councillors - he who speaks with a forked tongue, etc, etc!
What a fantastic idea, if I may say so myself!
Posted by: Ferrett, Bickley on 11:31pm Fri 15 Aug 08
How about Judge - Top Trumps?
For each Judge they could have categories such as;
Age
Years in the Job
Salary
Cost to Bribe
Number of community service hours sentenced
Time spent at Lunch
Number of Perversions
Death Sentences Awarded
and
(in)Sanity Level
The kids could play against each other and learn which judges to avoid at the same time.
How about Judge - Top Trumps?
For each Judge they could have categories such as;
Age
Years in the Job
Salary
Cost to Bribe
Number of community service hours sentenced
Time spent at Lunch
Number of Perversions
Death Sentences Awarded
and
(in)Sanity Level
The kids could play against each other and learn which judges to avoid at the same time.
Posted by: Gypo on 11:39pm Fri 15 Aug 08
Cassie and Sisyphus, the most boring people on the planet. They should move from Bromley to Borehamwood, where they could both Google stats forever.
Cassie and Sisyphus, the most boring people on the planet. They should move from Bromley to Borehamwood, where they could both Google stats forever.
Posted by: Rattler One Seven, Bromley on 11:41am Sat 16 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Gypo[/bold] wrote:
Cassie and Sisyphus, the most boring people on the planet. They should move from Bromley to Borehamwood, where they could both Google stats forever. [/quote] I agree about Cassie, but Sisyphus is quite amusing.
Gypo wrote:
Cassie and Sisyphus, the most boring people on the planet. They should move from Bromley to Borehamwood, where they could both Google stats forever.
I agree about Cassie, but Sisyphus is quite amusing.
Posted by: Matt, Bromley on 2:40pm Sat 16 Aug 08
I think that we should be focusing on what will improve the effectiveness of the police - the police already use crime mapping data themselves in a very sophisticated manner, so using it is nothing new to them and will unlikely be of any benefit in reducing crime. We will end up stigmatising areas and the only people to really benefit will be the reorters on newspapers who will be able to whip up emotions and create a mob mentality - and possibly the crafty Estate Agents who will raise prices in an area if it has below average crime.
I think the real thing we need to do is make the judiciary more open and accountable - the Police can target a high crime area time and again, nicking the criminals, only for the courts to fail to hand down any effective deterrent.
I think that we should be focusing on what will improve the effectiveness of the police - the police already use crime mapping data themselves in a very sophisticated manner, so using it is nothing new to them and will unlikely be of any benefit in reducing crime. We will end up stigmatising areas and the only people to really benefit will be the reorters on newspapers who will be able to whip up emotions and create a mob mentality - and possibly the crafty Estate Agents who will raise prices in an area if it has below average crime.
I think the real thing we need to do is make the judiciary more open and accountable - the Police can target a high crime area time and again, nicking the criminals, only for the courts to fail to hand down any effective deterrent.
Posted by: Edward, Bromley on 3:53pm Sat 16 Aug 08
What a waste of money, money that could be spent on policing. As has already been said, the police already use crime mapping data themselves in a very sophisticated manner. Use the money elsewhere in policing. Without any computer data or police expertese I can quite easily map the crime areas - Lewisham, Croydon, Southwark........
What a waste of money, money that could be spent on policing. As has already been said, the police already use crime mapping data themselves in a very sophisticated manner. Use the money elsewhere in policing. Without any computer data or police expertese I can quite easily map the crime areas - Lewisham, Croydon, Southwark........
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 2:54am Sun 17 Aug 08
[italic]Diane, Bromley on 11:24pm Fri 15 Aug 08[/italic]
aw thanks and i'd similarly bet your ad hom attacks are considered the height of intelligence and wit to bullies in school playgrounds :)
Diane, Bromley on 11:24pm Fri 15 Aug 08
aw thanks and i'd similarly bet your ad hom attacks are considered the height of intelligence and wit to bullies in school playgrounds :)
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 2:59am Sun 17 Aug 08
[italic]Gypo on 11:39pm Fri 15 Aug 08[/italic]
ooh more ad hom attacks, i'm sure bullies everywhere really look up to you and diane
Gypo on 11:39pm Fri 15 Aug 08
ooh more ad hom attacks, i'm sure bullies everywhere really look up to you and diane
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 3:04am Sun 17 Aug 08
[italic]Rattler One Seven, Bromley on 11:41am Sat 16 Aug 08[/italic]
and yet another ad hom attack....wonder if gypo, diane and seven are in the same gang
Rattler One Seven, Bromley on 11:41am Sat 16 Aug 08
and yet another ad hom attack....wonder if gypo, diane and seven are in the same gang
Posted by: Gypo on 1:24pm Sun 17 Aug 08
No gang 'cassie'. Did it ever cross your mind that people really do find you and 'Sis' boring ?
You really are a bore. Not bullying, not racist, not sexist, just hard facts you may not like.
A border line commie, socialist freaking bore. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz !
No gang 'cassie'. Did it ever cross your mind that people really do find you and 'Sis' boring ?
You really are a bore. Not bullying, not racist, not sexist, just hard facts you may not like.
A border line commie, socialist freaking bore. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz !
Posted by: Rattler One Seven, Bromley on 4:16pm Sun 17 Aug 08
I have to agree, Gypo. Cassie is incredibly tedious and the type you'd find in the corner of a room at a party.
I have to agree, Gypo. Cassie is incredibly tedious and the type you'd find in the corner of a room at a party.
Posted by: Eddie, Beckenham on 7:49pm Sun 17 Aug 08
[quote]and yet another ad hom attack....[/quote] Am I missing something here? What on earth does 'ad hom' mean? Sorry, cassie, I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort! Harsh, maybe. True, definitely.
and yet another ad hom attack....
Am I missing something here? What on earth does 'ad hom' mean? Sorry, cassie, I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort! Harsh, maybe. True, definitely.
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 3:50am Tue 19 Aug 08
[italic]No gang 'cassie'[/italic]
aw never mind, same mentality
[italic]Did it ever cross your mind that people really do find you and 'Sis' boring ?[/italic]
did it ever cross your mind that people really do find bullying as unacceptable in adults as they do in children
of course people who resort to trying to bully others usually have no insight into why they feel the need to behave like that, however there are many reasons, obviously as we are complete strangers i don't know why you feel the need but for example -
the bully might have problems with their family, might be bullied themselves, might have no friends and/or feel inadequate so want to make others feel as bad as they do, have low self-esttem and get a feeling of power from bullying, want to look big by joining in with other bulliess, and/or the bully's parents had no parenting skills and never taught their offspring morals and manners
[italic]You really are a bore[/italic]
you really are a bully
[italic]Not bullying[/italic]
actually your behaviour is well-recognised as bullying
[italic]not racist, not sexist, just hard facts you may not like.[/italic]
the fact you obviously don't like is that your behaviour is no different to that of bullies in a school playground
[italic]A border line commie, socialist freaking bore. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ![/italic]
oh name-calling - that's what bullies do, you've just absolutely proved i'm right :)
No gang 'cassie'
aw never mind, same mentality
Did it ever cross your mind that people really do find you and 'Sis' boring ?
did it ever cross your mind that people really do find bullying as unacceptable in adults as they do in children
of course people who resort to trying to bully others usually have no insight into why they feel the need to behave like that, however there are many reasons, obviously as we are complete strangers i don't know why you feel the need but for example -
the bully might have problems with their family, might be bullied themselves, might have no friends and/or feel inadequate so want to make others feel as bad as they do, have low self-esttem and get a feeling of power from bullying, want to look big by joining in with other bulliess, and/or the bully's parents had no parenting skills and never taught their offspring morals and manners
You really are a bore
you really are a bully
Not bullying
actually your behaviour is well-recognised as bullying
not racist, not sexist, just hard facts you may not like.
the fact you obviously don't like is that your behaviour is no different to that of bullies in a school playground
A border line commie, socialist freaking bore. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz !
oh name-calling - that's what bullies do, you've just absolutely proved i'm right :)
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 3:56am Tue 19 Aug 08
[italic]I have to agree, Gypo.[/italic]
(want to look big by joining in with other bullies)
I have to agree, Gypo.
(want to look big by joining in with other bullies)
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 4:07am Tue 19 Aug 08
[italic]Am I missing something here? What on earth does 'ad hom' mean?[/italic]
lol, i can see why [italic]you[/italic] would feel my posts are boring
[italic]Sorry, cassie[/italic]
no need to be, i find human nature very interesting
[italic]I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort![/italic]
said the person who doesn't know what 'ad hom' means and doesn't even have the wits to look it up himslef
[italic]Harsh, maybe. True, definitely[/italic]
due to feelings you have of being inadequate maybe, bullying definitely
Am I missing something here? What on earth does 'ad hom' mean?
lol, i can see why
you would feel my posts are boring
Sorry, cassie
no need to be, i find human nature very interesting
I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort!
said the person who doesn't know what 'ad hom' means and doesn't even have the wits to look it up himslef
Harsh, maybe. True, definitely
due to feelings you have of being inadequate maybe, bullying definitely
Posted by: Sweary Stan, Lee on 4:42am Tue 19 Aug 08
[quote][bold]cassie[/bold] wrote:
[italic]Am I missing something here? What on earth does 'ad hom' mean?[/italic] lol, i can see why [italic]you[/italic] would feel my posts are boring [italic]Sorry, cassie[/italic] no need to be, i find human nature very interesting [italic]I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort![/italic] said the person who doesn't know what 'ad hom' means and doesn't even have the wits to look it up himslef [italic]Harsh, maybe. True, definitely[/italic] due to feelings you have of being inadequate maybe, bullying definitely[/quote] Swaery Stan likes Cassie.She sure has some balls.
cassie wrote:
Am I missing something here? What on earth does 'ad hom' mean? lol, i can see why you would feel my posts are boring Sorry, cassie no need to be, i find human nature very interesting I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort! said the person who doesn't know what 'ad hom' means and doesn't even have the wits to look it up himslef Harsh, maybe. True, definitely due to feelings you have of being inadequate maybe, bullying definitely
Swaery Stan likes Cassie.She sure has some balls.
Posted by: Chris, Penge on 7:02am Tue 19 Aug 08
[quote][bold]cassie[/bold] wrote:
[italic]I have to agree, Gypo.[/italic] (want to look big by joining in with other bullies)[/quote] You certainly seem to be a well balanced sort - you've got a chip on both shoulders! However, merely calling everyone who disagrees with you or points out the irrefutable fact that you're boring is stretching credibility a bit.
cassie wrote:
I have to agree, Gypo. (want to look big by joining in with other bullies)
You certainly seem to be a well balanced sort - you've got a chip on both shoulders! However, merely calling everyone who disagrees with you or points out the irrefutable fact that you're boring is stretching credibility a bit.
Posted by: Sussed, Bromley on 8:55am Tue 19 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Sweary Stan[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]cassie[/bold] wrote: [italic]Am I missing something here? What on earth does 'ad hom' mean?[/italic] lol, i can see why [italic]you[/italic] would feel my posts are boring [italic]Sorry, cassie[/italic] no need to be, i find human nature very interesting [italic]I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort![/italic] said the person who doesn't know what 'ad hom' means and doesn't even have the wits to look it up himslef [italic]Harsh, maybe. True, definitely[/italic] due to feelings you have of being inadequate maybe, bullying definitely[/quote] Swaery Stan likes Cassie.She sure has some balls.[/quote] Two of a kind -or the same person?
Sweary Stan wrote:
cassie wrote: Am I missing something here? What on earth does 'ad hom' mean? lol, i can see why you would feel my posts are boring Sorry, cassie no need to be, i find human nature very interesting I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort! said the person who doesn't know what 'ad hom' means and doesn't even have the wits to look it up himslef Harsh, maybe. True, definitely due to feelings you have of being inadequate maybe, bullying definitely
Swaery Stan likes Cassie.She sure has some balls.
Two of a kind -or the same person?
Posted by: Gypo on 10:24pm Tue 19 Aug 08
"of course people who resort to trying to bully others usually have no insight into why they feel the need to behave like that, however there are many reasons, obviously as we are complete strangers i don't know why you feel the need but for example -
the bully might have problems with their family, might be bullied themselves, might have no friends and/or feel inadequate so want to make others feel as bad as they do, have low self-esttem and get a feeling of power from bullying, want to look big by joining in with other bulliess, and/or the bully's parents had no parenting skills and never taught their offspring morals and manners "
Casssie you just could not be more wrong. Totally wrong about me.
I have read a lot of what you and your 'amigo' Sis post, and whenever you dont like a post you use the bulling, racist, or sexist card. When you cannot get your own way you both winge like spoiled children. How can anyone bully you when you dont know me, and you also choose to read posts.
Perhaps you should practise what you preach, you told someone they haven't the wits to know what ad hom means. Thats bullying by your own standards , is it not.
"of course people who resort to trying to bully others usually have no insight into why they feel the need to behave like that, however there are many reasons, obviously as we are complete strangers i don't know why you feel the need but for example -
the bully might have problems with their family, might be bullied themselves, might have no friends and/or feel inadequate so want to make others feel as bad as they do, have low self-esttem and get a feeling of power from bullying, want to look big by joining in with other bulliess, and/or the bully's parents had no parenting skills and never taught their offspring morals and manners "
Casssie you just could not be more wrong. Totally wrong about me.
I have read a lot of what you and your 'amigo' Sis post, and whenever you dont like a post you use the bulling, racist, or sexist card. When you cannot get your own way you both winge like spoiled children. How can anyone bully you when you dont know me, and you also choose to read posts.
Perhaps you should practise what you preach, you told someone they haven't the wits to know what ad hom means. Thats bullying by your own standards , is it not.
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 10:58pm Tue 19 Aug 08
[italic]You certainly seem to be a well balanced sort - you've got a chip on both shoulders![/italic]
aw bless, a truly pitiful attempt at the old 'blame the victim' tactic so loved by bullies
[italic]merely calling everyone who disagrees with you[/italic]
the simple point which eludes you with such astonishing success is the difference between disagreeing with someone's viewpoint on an issue and mindless ad hom attacks
[italic]or points out the irrefutable fact that you're boring[/italic]
oh dear, another very simple point that eludes you, ie whether anyone is or isn't boring is [italic]of course[/italic] entirely subjective...
so you see, or rather if only you could see, while you must presumably think you are incredibly interesting others find [italic]you[/italic] incredibly boring, not to mention incredibly stupid and lacking in the most basic manners :)
however, if we [bold]all[/bold] spent our time telling everyone we thought was boring / stupid / ignorant that they are boring / stupid / ignorant every comment board would simply be full of posts saying 'your boring / stupid / ignorant'...
while i can see that [italic]you[/italic] might find that most interesting and stimulating, to the majority of people over the age of five it would be mindnumbingly boring
You certainly seem to be a well balanced sort - you've got a chip on both shoulders!
aw bless, a truly pitiful attempt at the old 'blame the victim' tactic so loved by bullies
merely calling everyone who disagrees with you
the simple point which eludes you with such astonishing success is the difference between disagreeing with someone's viewpoint on an issue and mindless ad hom attacks
or points out the irrefutable fact that you're boring
oh dear, another very simple point that eludes you, ie whether anyone is or isn't boring is
of course entirely subjective...
so you see, or rather if only you could see, while you must presumably think you are incredibly interesting others find
you incredibly boring, not to mention incredibly stupid and lacking in the most basic manners :)
however, if we
all spent our time telling everyone we thought was boring / stupid / ignorant that they are boring / stupid / ignorant every comment board would simply be full of posts saying 'your boring / stupid / ignorant'...
while i can see that
you might find that most interesting and stimulating, to the majority of people over the age of five it would be mindnumbingly boring
Posted by: Eddie, Beckenham on 11:29pm Tue 19 Aug 08
Cassie,
Have to agree entirely with what Gypo says - you could not be more wrong.
I have read a lot of what you post, and whenever you don't like a post you use the bulling, racist, or sexist card. When you cannot get your own way you whinge like a spoiled child.
And perhaps you should practise what you preach, you told someone (me) they haven't the wits to know what ad hom means. Thats bullying by your own standards , is it not?
Cassie,
Have to agree entirely with what Gypo says - you could not be more wrong.
I have read a lot of what you post, and whenever you don't like a post you use the bulling, racist, or sexist card. When you cannot get your own way you whinge like a spoiled child.
And perhaps you should practise what you preach, you told someone (me) they haven't the wits to know what ad hom means. Thats bullying by your own standards , is it not?
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 11:54pm Tue 19 Aug 08
[italic]Casssie you just could not be more wrong. Totally wrong about me[/italic]
from your posts obviously i'm not though
[italic]I have read a lot of what you and your 'amigo' Sis post[/italic]
oh how very dare you, you've gone waaay too far now - sis is not my 'amigo', sis is a self-confessed [italic]supremacist[/italic]
[italic]and whenever you dont like a post [/italic]
it isn't a matter of 'not liking' posts it is a matter of ojecting to attempts to bully
[italic] you use the bulling, racist, or sexist card.[/italic]
er no...you must be confusing me with another poster
[italic]When you cannot get your own way you both winge like spoiled children[/italic]
er no again...you've just made that up in your head, you seem to have forgetten that anyone can go to the top of this board, read through the comments and see that i merely commented on the story and was then mindlessly personally insulted
[italic]How can anyone bully you when you dont know me, and you also choose to read posts.[/italic]
sorry don't understand that, is it gang-slang?
[italic]Perhaps you should practise what you preach[/italic]
i do...well i don't practise but i do practice
[italic]you told someone they haven't the wits to know what ad hom means. Thats bullying by your own standards , is it not[/italic]
no it isn't, i'm all for bullies getting a taste of their own medicine, i'm just throwing back at the bullies what they chose to start dishing out :)
Casssie you just could not be more wrong. Totally wrong about me
from your posts obviously i'm not though
I have read a lot of what you and your 'amigo' Sis post
oh how very dare you, you've gone waaay too far now - sis is not my 'amigo', sis is a self-confessed
supremacist
and whenever you dont like a post
it isn't a matter of 'not liking' posts it is a matter of ojecting to attempts to bully
you use the bulling, racist, or sexist card.
er no...you must be confusing me with another poster
When you cannot get your own way you both winge like spoiled children
er no again...you've just made that up in your head, you seem to have forgetten that anyone can go to the top of this board, read through the comments and see that i merely commented on the story and was then mindlessly personally insulted
How can anyone bully you when you dont know me, and you also choose to read posts.
sorry don't understand that, is it gang-slang?
Perhaps you should practise what you preach
i do...well i don't practise but i do practice
you told someone they haven't the wits to know what ad hom means. Thats bullying by your own standards , is it not
no it isn't, i'm all for bullies getting a taste of their own medicine, i'm just throwing back at the bullies what they chose to start dishing out :)
Posted by: Gypo on 12:06am Wed 20 Aug 08
"no it isn't, i'm all for bullies getting a taste of their own medicine, i'm just throwing back at the bullies what they chose to start dishing out :)"
Two wrongs don't make a right. Or do they in your twisted mind.
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This prac·tise Audio Help (prāk'tĭs) Pronunciation Key
v. & n. Chiefly British
Variant of practice.
A British variant, much like you I expect. :)
Simon Bull in polite terms told you much the same, you are a bore. At least on this story you arn't messing up his good cause. Bored on night shift are you ?
"no it isn't, i'm all for bullies getting a taste of their own medicine, i'm just throwing back at the bullies what they chose to start dishing out :)"
Two wrongs don't make a right. Or do they in your twisted mind.
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This prac·tise Audio Help (prāk'tĭs) Pronunciation Key
v. & n. Chiefly British
Variant of practice.
A British variant, much like you I expect. :)
Simon Bull in polite terms told you much the same, you are a bore. At least on this story you arn't messing up his good cause. Bored on night shift are you ?
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 12:56am Wed 20 Aug 08
[italic]Have to agree entirely with what Gypo says [/italic]
you've reminded me of another reason for bullying - join in because scared of becoming a target of the bullies
[italic]I have read a lot of what you post, and whenever you don't like a post you use the bulling, racist, or sexist card[/italic]
that simply isn't true though, you've just made it up - or rather 'gypo' made it up and you are just mindlessly parroting it
[italic]When you cannot get your own way you whinge like a spoiled child.[/italic]
lol, no i don't, although of course feel free to give an example to support your claim...if you actually can
[italic]And perhaps you should practise what you preach,[/italic]
hmmmm... your post is so similar to gypo's i thought there was an echo in here and then exactly the same spelling error as 'gypo'...spookily uncanny or someone with very low-self-esteem resorting to posting comments agreeing with themself under a different name :)
[italic]you told someone (me) they haven't the wits to know what ad hom means. Thats bullying by your own standards , is it not?[/italic]
no because that was said in [bold]response[/bold] to you saying first "Sorry, cassie, I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort! Harsh, maybe. True, definitely."...
i'll try to explain for you the significance of the order of the posts - you posted to me [bold]first[/bold] -
[italic]Eddie, Beckenham on 7:49pm Sun 17 Aug 08[/italic]...
you chose to join in with the personal attacks on me, you chose to be rude and insulting to me, even though i hadn't said anything to you or about you...
so i [bold]replied[/bold] - [italic]cassie, bromley on 4:07am today [/italic] - giving back what you had chosen to dish out...which i'm [italic]sure[/italic] you'd agree is only fair :)
Have to agree entirely with what Gypo says
you've reminded me of another reason for bullying - join in because scared of becoming a target of the bullies
I have read a lot of what you post, and whenever you don't like a post you use the bulling, racist, or sexist card
that simply isn't true though, you've just made it up - or rather 'gypo' made it up and you are just mindlessly parroting it
When you cannot get your own way you whinge like a spoiled child.
lol, no i don't, although of course feel free to give an example to support your claim...if you actually can
And perhaps you should practise what you preach,
hmmmm... your post is so similar to gypo's i thought there was an echo in here and then exactly the same spelling error as 'gypo'...spookily uncanny or someone with very low-self-esteem resorting to posting comments agreeing with themself under a different name :)
you told someone (me) they haven't the wits to know what ad hom means. Thats bullying by your own standards , is it not?
no because that was said in
response to you saying first "Sorry, cassie, I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort! Harsh, maybe. True, definitely."...
i'll try to explain for you the significance of the order of the posts - you posted to me
first -
Eddie, Beckenham on 7:49pm Sun 17 Aug 08...
you chose to join in with the personal attacks on me, you chose to be rude and insulting to me, even though i hadn't said anything to you or about you...
so i
replied -
cassie, bromley on 4:07am today - giving back what you had chosen to dish out...which i'm
sure you'd agree is only fair :)
Posted by: Gypo on 1:17am Wed 20 Aug 08
Well cassie you've bored us all to sleep.
good night, what is it you say....
"aw bless"
Feel free to carry on posting though, as I'm sure you will.
Well cassie you've bored us all to sleep.
good night, what is it you say....
"aw bless"
Feel free to carry on posting though, as I'm sure you will.
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 2:39am Wed 20 Aug 08
[italic]Two wrongs don't make a right.[/italic]
oh you are a pacifist, how curious given your bullyboy behaviour...for those who are not pacifists two wrongs can and very often do make a right, for example self-defence, standing up to bullies, going to war to stop despots etc
[italic]Or do they in your twisted mind.[/italic]
lol - the 'twisted mind' is [bold]obviously[/bold] in the person who did the [italic]first[/italic] wrong, in the person who started it...and that was you dear...
why, anyone would think you are a complete hypocrite who likes dishing it out but can't take it back...
[italic]American Heritage Dictionary...[/italic]
an american pacifist, even more interesting...anyway
, oxford english dictionary - 'practice...usage it should be noted that practice is the spelling for the noun...'
so,- being british - as i said to you i don't practise what i preach i practice what i preach
[italic]Simon Bull in polite terms told you much the same, you are a bore[/italic]
oh well if simon 'i'm not putting up with what i insist eveyone else puts up with' bull said it that absolutely proves it's true doesn't it - well it does to the sycophants :)
[italic]At least on this story you arn't messing up his good cause.[/italic]
you mean like the bullies mess up other boards when the story is about someone trying to do good, but - as they don't have simon's power to remove posts - unlike him they just have to put up with it?
[italic]Bored on night shift are you ?[/italic]
feeling so inadequate you feel the need to try to bully others are you?
Two wrongs don't make a right.
oh you are a pacifist, how curious given your bullyboy behaviour...for those who are not pacifists two wrongs can and very often do make a right, for example self-defence, standing up to bullies, going to war to stop despots etc
Or do they in your twisted mind.
lol - the 'twisted mind' is
obviously in the person who did the
first wrong, in the person who started it...and that was you dear...
why, anyone would think you are a complete hypocrite who likes dishing it out but can't take it back...
American Heritage Dictionary...
an american pacifist, even more interesting...anyway
, oxford english dictionary - 'practice...usage it should be noted that practice is the spelling for the noun...'
so,- being british - as i said to you i don't practise what i preach i practice what i preach
Simon Bull in polite terms told you much the same, you are a bore
oh well if simon 'i'm not putting up with what i insist eveyone else puts up with' bull said it that absolutely proves it's true doesn't it - well it does to the sycophants :)
At least on this story you arn't messing up his good cause.
you mean like the bullies mess up other boards when the story is about someone trying to do good, but - as they don't have simon's power to remove posts - unlike him they just have to put up with it?
Bored on night shift are you ?
feeling so inadequate you feel the need to try to bully others are you?
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 2:48am Wed 20 Aug 08
[italic]Well cassie you've bored us all to sleep. good night, what is it you say...."aw bless"[/italic]
night gypo / eddie, hope overnight you realise your bullying gets you nowhere (and makes for incredibly boring boards) and so you resolve to act like an civilised adult in future
Well cassie you've bored us all to sleep. good night, what is it you say...."aw bless"
night gypo / eddie, hope overnight you realise your bullying gets you nowhere (and makes for incredibly boring boards) and so you resolve to act like an civilised adult in future
Posted by: Ridge, Stockton-On-Tees on 1:47pm Wed 20 Aug 08
I couldnt Agree with you more JayJay. they are trying to make improvments & move a step forward but fear like yourself that they are simply going to be taking 2 steps back if they were to implement this Idea & acutally launch it in September, bad idea, they need to go back to the drawing board & think of something else!
I couldnt Agree with you more JayJay. they are trying to make improvments & move a step forward but fear like yourself that they are simply going to be taking 2 steps back if they were to implement this Idea & acutally launch it in September, bad idea, they need to go back to the drawing board & think of something else!
Posted by: Ridge, Stockton-On-Tees on 2:20pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Excalibur[/bold] wrote:
How about applying the same principles to the judiciary? Why not have a website that members of the public can log into which lists all of our magistrates and all of our judges. Upon clicking on their name, it would reveal a list by type (ie. burglary, robbery, assault) of the cases that they had been responsible for when someone had been convicted - and the sentence that was handed down. That way we could immediately see where the weak links in the criminal justice system are. We\'d know exactly who is releasing the criminals back into our community to commit further offences............ ....and exactly who was responsible for the Fear of Crime\' in a particular area. This would have the fantastic added benefit of holding a number of politicians to account, if our experience here in Bromley is anything to go by. You\'d be amazed at the number of magistrates that are local councillors - he who speaks with a forked tongue, etc, etc! What a fantastic idea, if I may say so myself![/quote] Its the best & most sensible idea ive read in a long time! you have my Vote!
Excalibur wrote:
How about applying the same principles to the judiciary? Why not have a website that members of the public can log into which lists all of our magistrates and all of our judges. Upon clicking on their name, it would reveal a list by type (ie. burglary, robbery, assault) of the cases that they had been responsible for when someone had been convicted - and the sentence that was handed down. That way we could immediately see where the weak links in the criminal justice system are. We\'d know exactly who is releasing the criminals back into our community to commit further offences............ ....and exactly who was responsible for the Fear of Crime\' in a particular area. This would have the fantastic added benefit of holding a number of politicians to account, if our experience here in Bromley is anything to go by. You\'d be amazed at the number of magistrates that are local councillors - he who speaks with a forked tongue, etc, etc! What a fantastic idea, if I may say so myself!
Its the best & most sensible idea ive read in a long time! you have my Vote!
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 1:14am Thu 21 Aug 08
[italic]That way we could immediately see where the weak links in the criminal justice system are[/italic]
not defending (as it were) magistrates/judges but the sentencing guidelines council and panel also have a lot to answer for
That way we could immediately see where the weak links in the criminal justice system are
not defending (as it were) magistrates/judges but the sentencing guidelines council and panel also have a lot to answer for
Posted by: Gypo on 1:20am Thu 21 Aug 08
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Oh is you Little Miss Boring.
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Oh is you Little Miss Boring.
Posted by: Excalibur, Bromley on 10:17am Thu 21 Aug 08
[quote][bold]cassie[/bold] wrote:
[italic]That way we could immediately see where the weak links in the criminal justice system are[/italic] not defending (as it were) magistrates/judges but the sentencing guidelines council and panel also have a lot to answer for[/quote] I hear where you're coming from, but how many times do the judges and magistrates stick to these? We read time and again about the guidelines being ignored. Time to take the discresion out of their hands and make the sentences mandatory. Do the crime, do the time.
cassie wrote:
That way we could immediately see where the weak links in the criminal justice system are not defending (as it were) magistrates/judges but the sentencing guidelines council and panel also have a lot to answer for
I hear where you're coming from, but how many times do the judges and magistrates stick to these? We read time and again about the guidelines being ignored. Time to take the discresion out of their hands and make the sentences mandatory. Do the crime, do the time.
Posted by: Ridge, Stockton-On-Tees on 11:21am Thu 21 Aug 08
Cassie Answer me this Question... if magistrates/judges [italic]italic[/italic] [bold]bold[/bold] as it were" we faced with a case where a drink driver was behind the wheel of a car & knocked over a young child & killed them out right! Do you think that because of guidelines the magistrate/judge should be lenient or sympathetic to that driver for taking the life of that child because he/she chose to drink drive?
There are judges out there that will throw the book at the person responsible! & Judges who just decide to give the person responsible for that crime a slap on the wrist & ill meet ya in the pub for a pint later to say thanks for the light sentence! **** to the guidelines! I say only employ the Judges who have the balls to throw the book at the Criminals of our Society! Over crowded prisons? Then build more! Simple!
Cassie Answer me this Question... if magistrates/judges as it were" we faced with a case where a drink driver was behind the wheel of a car & knocked over a young child & killed them out right! Do you think that because of guidelines the magistrate/judge should be lenient or sympathetic to that driver for taking the life of that child because he/she chose to drink drive?
There are judges out there that will throw the book at the person responsible! & Judges who just decide to give the person responsible for that crime a slap on the wrist & ill meet ya in the pub for a pint later to say thanks for the light sentence! **** to the guidelines! I say only employ the Judges who have the balls to throw the book at the Criminals of our Society! Over crowded prisons? Then build more! Simple!
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 1:04am Fri 22 Aug 08
[italic]Gypo on 1:20am Thu 21 Aug 08 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzz
Oh is you Little Miss Boring[/italic] .
while bullying is soooo [italic]very[/italic] interesting and soooo [italic]very[/italic] exciting isn't it, well to big and clever and [italic]really really [/italic] hard bullies like you, gosh bet all your gang-mates really look up to you :)
Gypo on 1:20am Thu 21 Aug 08 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzz
Oh is you Little Miss Boring .
while bullying is soooo
very interesting and soooo
very exciting isn't it, well to big and clever and
really really hard bullies like you, gosh bet all your gang-mates really look up to you :)
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 1:23am Fri 22 Aug 08
[italic]Time to take the discresion out of their hands and make the sentences mandatory. Do the crime, do the time[/italic]
not too sure about mandatory same-for-every-case, i feel that as a principle of justice each case [italic]should[/italic] be treated individually - perhaps we need [bold]appropriate[/bold] minimums
i'd agree that far too much leniency is shown to repeat, and violent, offenders
really the whole sentencing and prison regimes need a complete overhaul
Time to take the discresion out of their hands and make the sentences mandatory. Do the crime, do the time
not too sure about mandatory same-for-every-case, i feel that as a principle of justice each case
should be treated individually - perhaps we need
appropriate minimums
i'd agree that far too much leniency is shown to repeat, and violent, offenders
really the whole sentencing and prison regimes need a complete overhaul
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 1:58am Fri 22 Aug 08
[italic]...Do you think that because of guidelines the magistrate/judge should be lenient or sympathetic to that driver for taking the life of that child because he/she chose to drink drive?...[/italic]
no but there are many factors which have to be, or should be, taken into account, eg how much over the legal limit, culpability etc
i see on the sentencing guidelines council website they've just issued their definitive guidelines re causing death by driving, it includes drink-driving, careless driving etc, effective 4 august
i've had a v v quick look, haven't read it properly but there are lots of ins and outs mags/judges are supposed to consider when working out the sentence, the link to those new guidelines is on this page
www.sentencing-guide
lines.gov.uk/
[italic]Over crowded prisons? Then build more! Simple![/italic]
yes! the rank incompetence of this government is shocking and obviously dangerous for society, why they are not being held to account for this i don't know
...Do you think that because of guidelines the magistrate/judge should be lenient or sympathetic to that driver for taking the life of that child because he/she chose to drink drive?...
no but there are many factors which have to be, or should be, taken into account, eg how much over the legal limit, culpability etc
i see on the sentencing guidelines council website they've just issued their definitive guidelines re causing death by driving, it includes drink-driving, careless driving etc, effective 4 august
i've had a v v quick look, haven't read it properly but there are lots of ins and outs mags/judges are supposed to consider when working out the sentence, the link to those new guidelines is on this page
www.sentencing-guide
lines.gov.uk/
Over crowded prisons? Then build more! Simple!
yes! the rank incompetence of this government is shocking and obviously dangerous for society, why they are not being held to account for this i don't know
Posted by: Kate, Sidcup on 7:06pm Fri 22 Aug 08
[quote]i see on the sentencing guidelines council website[/quote] Get a life, saddo.
i see on the sentencing guidelines council website
Get a life, saddo.
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 4:51pm Sun 24 Aug 08
fascinating...your problem obviously stems from deep-seated feelings of inadequacy
fascinating...your problem obviously stems from deep-seated feelings of inadequacy
Posted by: Gypo on 11:24pm Sun 24 Aug 08
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Posted by: cassie, bromley on 3:02pm Mon 25 Aug 08
gypo, thanks because with your every post you prove you [bold]are[/bold] a bully, keeping on and on and on as bullies do :)
gypo, thanks because with your every post you prove you
are a bully, keeping on and on and on as bullies do :)
Posted by: Gypo on 7:49pm Mon 25 Aug 08
cassie you do like having the last word. You are a bore, a bore, a bore. Hows that little Miss Boring. You'r like a spoilt child," boo hoo I'm being bullied". Guess what, no one's listening or cares because you are just that, a BORE.
cassie you do like having the last word. You are a bore, a bore, a bore. Hows that little Miss Boring. You'r like a spoilt child," boo hoo I'm being bullied". Guess what, no one's listening or cares because you are just that, a BORE.
Posted by: Gypo on 7:54pm Mon 25 Aug 08
"keeping on and on and on as bullies do :)"
Jusst like you did on Simon Bulls story about his swap for charity cassie. Typical socialist aren't you " dont do as I do, do as I say ". :)
"keeping on and on and on as bullies do :)"
Jusst like you did on Simon Bulls story about his swap for charity cassie. Typical socialist aren't you " dont do as I do, do as I say ". :)
Posted by: Kate, Sidcup on 8:05pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Gypo,
You're obviously a psychiatrist - you've sussed boring cassie out perfectly!
Gypo,
You're obviously a psychiatrist - you've sussed boring cassie out perfectly!
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 11:49pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[italic]cassie you do like having the last word[/italic]
er...no, i'm [bold]replying[/bold] to [italic]your[/italic] posts...[italic]you[/italic] are the one who wants the last word, you are post first and i [bold]reply[/bold]
[italic]You are a bore, a bore, a bore. /italic]
you are a bully, a bully, a bully
[italic]Hows that little Miss Boring[/italic]
lol...it's pathetic but doubtless you think it makes you look [italic]really, really[ /italic] big and clever and sooooo hard
[italic]You'r like a spoilt child[/italic]
[italic]you[/italic] are the one behaving like a spoilt child, keeping on and on and on
"boo hoo I'm being bullied"
ha you wish...i'm not though, i'm just giving you back what you are choosing to dish out...which [italic]surely[/italic] you would agree is only fair
you say you think i'm boring, i [bold]reply[/bold] that you are a bully...and that you are still keeping on and on just proves you are
[italic]Guess what, no one's listening or cares [/italic]
hmmmm....except... [italic]you [/italic] obviously are and do!
[italic]because you are just that, a BORE[/italic]
and you are just that, a BULLY :)
cassie you do like having the last word
er...no, i'm
replying to your posts...you are the one who wants the last word, you are post first and i
reply
You are a bore, a bore, a bore. /italic]
you are a bully, a bully, a bully
Hows that little Miss Boring
lol...it's pathetic but doubtless you think it makes you look really, really big and clever and sooooo hard
You'r like a spoilt child
you are the one behaving like a spoilt child, keeping on and on and on
"boo hoo I'm being bullied"
ha you wish...i'm not though, i'm just giving you back what you are choosing to dish out...which surely you would agree is only fair
you say you think i'm boring, i
reply that you are a bully...and that you are still keeping on and on just proves you are
Guess what, no one's listening or cares
hmmmm....except... you obviously are and do!
because you are just that, a BORE
and you are just that, a BULLY :)
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 12:01am Tue 26 Aug 08
[italic]Jusst like you did on Simon Bulls story about his swap for charity[/italic]
i didn't though, i posted a comment about the [italic]story[/italic] , some then chose to keep making comments to [italic]me[/italic] so i [bold]replied[/bold]
[italic]Typical socialist aren't you " dont do as I do, do as I say[/italic] "
as above, i was merely [bold]replying[/bold] to comments made to me, ie it wasn't me keeping on it was those who kept posting to me first...
a simple enough sequence to grasp but i'm not particularly surprised [italic]you[/italic] are having great difficulty understanding it
Jusst like you did on Simon Bulls story about his swap for charity
i didn't though, i posted a comment about the
story , some then chose to keep making comments to
me so i
replied
Typical socialist aren't you " dont do as I do, do as I say "
as above, i was merely
replying to comments made to me, ie it wasn't me keeping on it was those who kept posting to me first...
a simple enough sequence to grasp but i'm not particularly surprised
you are having great difficulty understanding it
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 12:06am Tue 26 Aug 08
[italic]You're obviously a psychiatrist[/italic]
you are obviously a bully kate...or should i say gypo / eddie :)
You're obviously a psychiatrist
you are obviously a bully kate...or should i say gypo / eddie :)
Posted by: Gypo on 1:20am Tue 26 Aug 08
"Bully" you just love that word cassie. The same old, same old.
Boring, boring, you and ya pal Sisyphalus. I bet you both have black belts in being a total bores.
See ya, defo would not wanna be ya. :)
"Bully" you just love that word cassie. The same old, same old.
Boring, boring, you and ya pal Sisyphalus. I bet you both have black belts in being a total bores.
See ya, defo would not wanna be ya. :)
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 2:27am Tue 26 Aug 08
[italic]"Bully" you just love that word cassie.[/italic]
"boring" you just love that word gypo
[italic]The same old, same old[/italic]
you've being posting first and i'm merely [bold]replying[/bold] to [bold]your[/bold] 'same old same old'....i see you've still not managed to grasp the simple sequence yet
[italic]Boring, boring[/italic]
bullying, bullying
[italic]you and ya pal Sisyphalus. I bet you both have black belts in being a total bores[/italic]
you and ya 'pals' kate and eddie etc, i bet you all have yellow belts in being [italic]really really[/italic] big and clever and soooo hard bullies
[italic]See ya, defo would not wanna be ya. :)
[/italic]
see ya, defo would not want to be ya, doubtless you don't want to be ya either hence the attempts to bully someone else :)
"Bully" you just love that word cassie.
"boring" you just love that word gypo
The same old, same old
you've being posting first and i'm merely
replying to
your 'same old same old'....i see you've still not managed to grasp the simple sequence yet
Boring, boring
bullying, bullying
you and ya pal Sisyphalus. I bet you both have black belts in being a total bores
you and ya 'pals' kate and eddie etc, i bet you all have yellow belts in being
really really big and clever and soooo hard bullies
See ya, defo would not wanna be ya. :)
see ya, defo would not want to be ya, doubtless you don't want to be ya either hence the attempts to bully someone else :)
Posted by: Kate, Sidcup on 8:00am Tue 26 Aug 08
Definitely a number of severe mental health issues going on there cassie. And why do you find it so hard to believe that more than one person can find you boring? Well reality check, most people find you a tedious bore. Or in your language [italic]btw you're a sad bore :)[/italic]
Definitely a number of severe mental health issues going on there cassie. And why do you find it so hard to believe that more than one person can find you boring? Well reality check, most people find you a tedious bore. Or in your language
btw you're a sad bore :) Posted by: Ridge, Stockton-On-Tees on 10:56am Tue 26 Aug 08
I can feel the Love on this page!
I can feel the Love on this page!
Posted by: Gypo on 8:12pm Tue 26 Aug 08
Cassie don't take yourself so seriously. No one else does, in fact most of us find you the B word. :)
Cassie don't take yourself so seriously. No one else does, in fact most of us find you the B word. :)
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 11:50pm Tue 26 Aug 08
[italic]Definitely a number of severe mental health issues going on there cassie.[/italic]
sure some counselling will help you with them
[italic] And why do you find it so hard to believe that more than one person can find you boring?[/italic]
why do you find it so hard to understand the meaning of the word 'subjective'
[italic]Well reality check, most people find you a tedious bore[/italic]
most people find you a really stupid little bully
[italic]Or in your language btw you're a sad bore[/italic]
in your own language you're a thicko :)
Definitely a number of severe mental health issues going on there cassie.
sure some counselling will help you with them
And why do you find it so hard to believe that more than one person can find you boring?
why do you find it so hard to understand the meaning of the word 'subjective'
Well reality check, most people find you a tedious bore
most people find you a really stupid little bully
Or in your language btw you're a sad bore
in your own language you're a thicko :)
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 12:10am Wed 27 Aug 08
[italic]Cassie don't take yourself so seriously[/italic]
i'm not, i'm just replying to your posts
[italic]in fact most of us find you the B word.[/italic]
in fact you show yet again that you are a bully...you just don't realise you are exposing your low self-esteem :)
Cassie don't take yourself so seriously
i'm not, i'm just replying to your posts
in fact most of us find you the B word.
in fact you show yet again that you are a bully...you just don't realise you are exposing your low self-esteem :)
Posted by: Kate, Sidcup on 9:00am Wed 27 Aug 08
cassie,
Get some treatment - they may release you one day. I expect you've bored the other inmates to death by now. 'Death by cassie' - you really wouldn't wish it on your worst enemy!
cassie,
Get some treatment - they may release you one day. I expect you've bored the other inmates to death by now. 'Death by cassie' - you really wouldn't wish it on your worst enemy!
Posted by: Gypo on 8:15pm Wed 27 Aug 08
"in your own language you're a thicko :)"
Once again, "don't do as I do, do as I say."
Oh I remember your only giving it back.
"in your own language you're a thicko :)"
Once again, "don't do as I do, do as I say."
Oh I remember your only giving it back.
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 2:18am Thu 28 Aug 08
[italic]Get some treatment...[/italic]
[italic]you[/italic] are the one needing treatment... and as i'm [italic]sooooo[/italic] kind i'll try to help you see that..
first we'll identify some examples of your behaviour and then consider the cause(s)
[bold]behaviour[/bold]
- bullies project their own inadequacies onto others, particularly via name-calling
- bullies try to publicly put others down
- bullies try hard to boost their ego by undermining others
- bullies make irrational accusations and constantly repeat them
- bullies run 'witch-hunts' against those they perceive as being happy and/or more successful and/or more intelligent
- bullies feel a strong desire to hurt / upset others
[bold]causes[/bold]
- deep-seated feelings of insecurity and/or inadequacy
- low self-esteem and jealousy
- inability to accept or address personal shortcomings
- feelings of utter helplessness / lack of control
- very low iq
- abnormal mental / emotional development eg constant siege mentality, lacking empathy
the good news is that research shows that some bullies [italic]can[/italic] overcome their crippling mental-health problems...good luck :)
Get some treatment...
you are the one needing treatment... and as i'm
sooooo kind i'll try to help you see that..
first we'll identify some examples of your behaviour and then consider the cause(s)
behaviour
- bullies project their own inadequacies onto others, particularly via name-calling
- bullies try to publicly put others down
- bullies try hard to boost their ego by undermining others
- bullies make irrational accusations and constantly repeat them
- bullies run 'witch-hunts' against those they perceive as being happy and/or more successful and/or more intelligent
- bullies feel a strong desire to hurt / upset others
causes
- deep-seated feelings of insecurity and/or inadequacy
- low self-esteem and jealousy
- inability to accept or address personal shortcomings
- feelings of utter helplessness / lack of control
- very low iq
- abnormal mental / emotional development eg constant siege mentality, lacking empathy
the good news is that research shows that some bullies
can overcome their crippling mental-health problems...good luck :)
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 2:29am Thu 28 Aug 08
[italic]Once again, "don't do as I do, do as I say[/italic]
lol - that's [italic]your[/italic] line, you like dishing it but whinge when someone does as [italic]you[/italic] do
[italic]Oh I remember your only giving it back[/italic]
as even the most cursory glance through this board clearly shows - you started it, you are keeping on and on and on, i'm just [bold]replying[/bold] :)
Once again, "don't do as I do, do as I say
lol - that's
your line, you like dishing it but whinge when someone does as
you do
Oh I remember your only giving it back
as even the most cursory glance through this board clearly shows - you started it, you are keeping on and on and on, i'm just
replying :)
Posted by: Kate, Sidcup on 9:41am Thu 28 Aug 08
[quote]- deep-seated feelings of insecurity and/or inadequacy
- low self-esteem and jealousy
- inability to accept or address personal shortcomings
- feelings of utter helplessness / lack of control
- very low iq
- abnormal mental / emotional development eg constant siege mentality, lacking empathy[/quote] Couldn't have summed you up better myself, cassie.
- deep-seated feelings of insecurity and/or inadequacy
- low self-esteem and jealousy
- inability to accept or address personal shortcomings
- feelings of utter helplessness / lack of control
- very low iq
- abnormal mental / emotional development eg constant siege mentality, lacking empathy
Couldn't have summed you up better myself, cassie.
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 3:07am Fri 29 Aug 08
oh dear 'kate', clearly despite my kindly attempts to help you are still in denial
your posts and behaviour - that [italic]you[/italic] started it and feel [italic]driven[/italic] to continue it, and are exhibiting classic bully-mentality - are writ large above for all to see, as is that i am merely [bold]replying[/bold] to [italic]your[/italic] posts
btw your denial of the truth is a classic symptom of bullying caused by deep-seated feelings of insecurity and/or inadequacy, hope that insight helps you start to come to terms with reality :)
oh dear 'kate', clearly despite my kindly attempts to help you are still in denial
your posts and behaviour - that
you started it and feel
driven to continue it, and are exhibiting classic bully-mentality - are writ large above for all to see, as is that i am merely
replying to
your posts
btw your denial of the truth is a classic symptom of bullying caused by deep-seated feelings of insecurity and/or inadequacy, hope that insight helps you start to come to terms with reality :)
Posted by: Kate, Sidcup on 11:14am Fri 29 Aug 08
cassie, in her own words: [quote]- deep-seated feelings of insecurity and/or inadequacy
- low self-esteem and jealousy
- inability to accept or address personal shortcomings
- feelings of utter helplessness / lack of control
- very low iq
- abnormal mental / emotional development eg constant siege mentality, lacking empathy[/quote]
cassie, in everyone else's words: [quote]dull & boring[/quote]
cassie, in her own words:
- deep-seated feelings of insecurity and/or inadequacy
- low self-esteem and jealousy
- inability to accept or address personal shortcomings
- feelings of utter helplessness / lack of control
- very low iq
- abnormal mental / emotional development eg constant siege mentality, lacking empathy
cassie, in everyone else's words:
dull & boring
Posted by: Rattler One Seven, Bromley on 6:34pm Fri 29 Aug 08
[quote]are writ large above for all to see, as is that i am merely replying to your posts[/quote] I blame Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. Eleven years of New Labour and this is the result. Talk about the dumbing down of a nation!
are writ large above for all to see, as is that i am merely replying to your posts
I blame Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. Eleven years of New Labour and this is the result. Talk about the dumbing down of a nation!
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 11:21pm Sat 30 Aug 08
'kate' as shown by her behaviour
- projecting own inadequacies onto others, particularly via name-calling
- trying to publicly put others down
- trying hard to boost ego by undermining others
- making irrational accusations and constantly repeating them
- running a 'witch-hunt' against someone perceived as being happy and/or more successful and/or more intelligent
- feeling a strong desire to hurt / upset others
'kate' in everyone else's words: sad bully
'kate' as shown by her behaviour
- projecting own inadequacies onto others, particularly via name-calling
- trying to publicly put others down
- trying hard to boost ego by undermining others
- making irrational accusations and constantly repeating them
- running a 'witch-hunt' against someone perceived as being happy and/or more successful and/or more intelligent
- feeling a strong desire to hurt / upset others
'kate' in everyone else's words: sad bully
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 11:40pm Sat 30 Aug 08
[italic]I blame Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. Eleven years of New Labour and this is the result. Talk about the dumbing down of a nation[/italic] !
err...what do you blame them for and why?
not saying there isn't much to blame them for, not least the 'anti-social' behaviour blighting communities
and indeed comment boards :)
I blame Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. Eleven years of New Labour and this is the result. Talk about the dumbing down of a nation !
err...what do you blame them for and why?
not saying there isn't much to blame them for, not least the 'anti-social' behaviour blighting communities
and indeed comment boards :)
Posted by: Kate, Bromley on 11:40pm Sat 30 Aug 08
[quote][bold]cassie[/bold] wrote:
'kate' as shown by her behaviour - projecting own inadequacies onto others, particularly via name-calling - trying to publicly put others down - trying hard to boost ego by undermining others - making irrational accusations and constantly repeating them - running a 'witch-hunt' against someone perceived as being happy and/or more successful and/or more intelligent - feeling a strong desire to hurt / upset others 'kate' in everyone else's words: sad bully [/quote] All points in my previous post fully proven.
cassie wrote:
'kate' as shown by her behaviour - projecting own inadequacies onto others, particularly via name-calling - trying to publicly put others down - trying hard to boost ego by undermining others - making irrational accusations and constantly repeating them - running a 'witch-hunt' against someone perceived as being happy and/or more successful and/or more intelligent - feeling a strong desire to hurt / upset others 'kate' in everyone else's words: sad bully
All points in my previous post fully proven.
Posted by: Kate, Sidcup on 12:04am Sun 31 Aug 08
[quote][bold]cassie[/bold] wrote:
[italic]I blame Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. Eleven years of New Labour and this is the result. Talk about the dumbing down of a nation[/italic] ! err...what do you blame them for and why? not saying there isn't much to blame them for, not least the 'anti-social' behaviour blighting communities and indeed comment boards :)[/quote] You really are intent on proving my assertion that you've got a low IQ, aren't you cassie? It's pretty obvious to all bar an idiot that the post left by 'Rattler' is referring to your inability to communicate in English. Doh!
cassie wrote:
I blame Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. Eleven years of New Labour and this is the result. Talk about the dumbing down of a nation ! err...what do you blame them for and why? not saying there isn't much to blame them for, not least the 'anti-social' behaviour blighting communities and indeed comment boards :)
You really are intent on proving my assertion that you've got a low IQ, aren't you cassie? It's pretty obvious to all bar an idiot that the post left by 'Rattler' is referring to your inability to communicate in English. Doh!
Posted by: Rattler One Seven, Bromley on 2:15pm Sun 31 Aug 08
Indeed that was exactly the point I was making, which I would think was pretty obvious.
However, what is now more obvious is that 'cassie' and 'Kate' are indeed the same person. Give it up, we're really not interested.
Indeed that was exactly the point I was making, which I would think was pretty obvious.
However, what is now more obvious is that 'cassie' and 'Kate' are indeed the same person. Give it up, we're really not interested.
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 2:02am Mon 1 Sep 08
[italic]All points in my previous post fully proven.[/italic]
lol...i appreciate you are in denial but the truth is documented in the posts above for everyone to see -
you started it with your irrational, bullying name-calling and you are the one keeping on and on and on -
which just makes you look more and more desperate and in need of help, professional help
All points in my previous post fully proven.
lol...i appreciate you are in denial but the truth is documented in the posts above for everyone to see -
you started it with your irrational, bullying name-calling and you are the one keeping on and on and on -
which just makes you look more and more desperate and in need of help, professional help
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 2:12am Mon 1 Sep 08
[italic]It's pretty obvious to all bar an idiot that the post left by 'Rattler' is referring to your inability to communicate in English. Doh![/italic]
goodness you are thick aren't you, typical thicko unthinkingly accepting unfounded assumptions and believing them as fact...
so, doh! what exactly have blair & co got to do with my ability to communicate in english?
i wouldn't be at all surprised if they have everything to do with your appalling manners and inability to think logically though :)
It's pretty obvious to all bar an idiot that the post left by 'Rattler' is referring to your inability to communicate in English. Doh!
goodness you are thick aren't you, typical thicko unthinkingly accepting unfounded assumptions and believing them as fact...
so, doh! what exactly have blair & co got to do with my ability to communicate in english?
i wouldn't be at all surprised if they have everything to do with your appalling manners and inability to think logically though :)
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 2:21am Mon 1 Sep 08
[italic]Indeed that was exactly the point I was making, which I would think was pretty obvious[/italic]
not obvious to those with the capacity to think....instead of just believing unfounded assumptions they've made up in their head and repeating them as fact...
so my question again -
err...what do you blame them for and why?
italic]what is now more obvious is that 'cassie' and 'Kate' are indeed the same person.[/italic]
gypo / eddie / kate / rattler you really have gone [italic]tooooo[/italic] far now, that insult is [italic]waaaayy[/italic] beneath the belt :)
Indeed that was exactly the point I was making, which I would think was pretty obvious
not obvious to those with the capacity to think....instead of just believing unfounded assumptions they've made up in their head and repeating them as fact...
so my question again -
err...what do you blame them for and why?
italic]what is now more obvious is that 'cassie' and 'Kate' are indeed the same person.
gypo / eddie / kate / rattler you really have gone tooooo far now, that insult is waaaayy beneath the belt :)
Posted by: Rattler One Seven, Bromley on 8:14am Mon 1 Sep 08
'cassie'/'Kate',
Please seek treatment, you really are urgently in need of some.
'cassie'/'Kate',
Please seek treatment, you really are urgently in need of some.
Posted by: cassie, bromley on 1:23am Tue 2 Sep 08
gypo / eddie / kate / rattler why don't you answer the question?
what do you blame blair and co for and why?
gypo / eddie / kate / rattler why don't you answer the question?
what do you blame blair and co for and why?
Posted by: Rattler One Seven, Bromley on 7:57am Tue 2 Sep 08
[quote][quote]are writ large above for all to see, as is that i am merely replying to your posts[/quote]
I blame Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. Eleven years of New Labour and this is the result. Talk about the dumbing down of a nation![/quote]
Are you for real? Surely you cannot be so daft as to not understand this? If so, it is proof positive that 11 years of New Lie-bour have wrecked the education system.
And 'cassie/kate', looking at your previous posts, I'd say that you are pretty ill - your posts clearly reveal this. There's not a rational, well-thought out argument amonst them. All you do is respond to people's posts by saying exactly the same thing about them. Hardly the sign of a great mind! Anyway, I've got a life to lead, so I'll leave you to argue amongst your many personalities.......
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are writ large above for all to see, as is that i am merely replying to your posts
I blame Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. Eleven years of New Labour and this is the result. Talk about the dumbing down of a nation!
Are you for real? Surely you cannot be so daft as to not understand this? If so, it is proof positive that 11 years of New Lie-bour have wrecked the education system.
And 'cassie/kate', looking at your previous posts, I'd say that you are pretty ill - your posts clearly reveal this. There's not a rational, well-thought out argument amonst them. All you do is respond to people's posts by saying exactly the same thing about them. Hardly the sign of a great mind! Anyway, I've got a life to lead, so I'll leave you to argue amongst your many personalities.......
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Posted by: cassie, bromley on 1:19am Wed 3 Sep 08
[italic]Surely you cannot be so daft as to not understand this? If so, it is proof positive that 11 years of New Lie-bour have wrecked the education system.[/italic]
what [italic]are[/italic] you on about?
why don't you just answer the question as you claim the answer is soooo obvious?
what exactly do you believe '11 years of new labour" has to do with my education?
Surely you cannot be so daft as to not understand this? If so, it is proof positive that 11 years of New Lie-bour have wrecked the education system.
what
are you on about?
why don't you just answer the question as you claim the answer is soooo obvious?
what exactly do you believe '11 years of new labour" has to do with my education?
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