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Discuss: Bringing back the cane
CANING should be reintroduced in schools - that is what a fifth of teachers believe, but what do you think?
In a survey for The Times Educational Supplement, 22 per cent of secondary school teachers and 16 per cent of their primary school counterparts backed the use of corporal punishment in "extreme cases".
Deteriorating behaviour was given as the main reason for supporting bringing back the cane, more than 20 years after it was banned.
Teachers also commented on pupils not responding to the current sanctions available.
Would the cane be an effective deterrent to crack down on misbehaving children? Are there other better methods to keep order in lessons?
Have teachers lost their authority over pupils?
Can there ever be any justification for hitting children, however bad their behaviour is? Would you support your child being given the cane in school?
Have your say - add your comments below.
9:59am Friday 3rd October 2008
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CommentPosted by: Ronnie, Eltham on 10:09am Fri 3 Oct 08
As i was a bit of a problem child in my youth i honestly think that if i had the cane growing up in school it would have made me think twice about breaking school rules as a detention never seemed to do the trick. so i think that it should be re introduced in the extreme occasions as no other sanctions would be tough enough.
As i was a bit of a problem child in my youth i honestly think that if i had the cane growing up in school it would have made me think twice about breaking school rules as a detention never seemed to do the trick. so i think that it should be re introduced in the extreme occasions as no other sanctions would be tough enough.
Posted by: Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott, The Study on 10:21am Fri 3 Oct 08
Though I would rejoice to see the cane brought back, the possibility of it ever happening is a small one.
If teachers are not even allowed to physically pull apart fighting children, I cannot imagine the use of the cane being given the go-ahead.
[bold]Erastus[/bold]
Though I would rejoice to see the cane brought back, the possibility of it ever happening is a small one.
If teachers are not even allowed to physically pull apart fighting children, I cannot imagine the use of the cane being given the go-ahead.
Erastus Posted by: luce on 10:30am Fri 3 Oct 08
"Children" dont you mean stroppy little bas****s who think they call the shots over adults. dont think you can bring back the cane now - too much of a nanny state - gone on too long- shame i would support it if it came back.
"Children" dont you mean stroppy little bas****s who think they call the shots over adults. dont think you can bring back the cane now - too much of a nanny state - gone on too long- shame i would support it if it came back.
Posted by: Tyler on 10:41am Fri 3 Oct 08
If da teacher tried ta whak me wit da cane I wood cane him bak wit a fist to the face.....
If da teacher tried ta whak me wit da cane I wood cane him bak wit a fist to the face.....
Posted by: luce on 10:45am Fri 3 Oct 08
I rest my case.
Posted by: Lizzielooloo on 11:00am Fri 3 Oct 08
I heard this on the news this morning and YES bring it back!
Funny how the threat of being sent to the headmaster’s office for 6 of the best put people off! Slipper or cane bring it back, something needs to be done.
I agree with Luce and Erastus, nice idea but it aint gonna happen is it?
I heard this on the news this morning and YES bring it back!
Funny how the threat of being sent to the headmaster’s office for 6 of the best put people off! Slipper or cane bring it back, something needs to be done.
I agree with Luce and Erastus, nice idea but it aint gonna happen is it?
Posted by: Tyler on 11:07am Fri 3 Oct 08
All u oldies only lik da ideaz of kidz gettin da cane as ur pervs.....
All u oldies only lik da ideaz of kidz gettin da cane as ur pervs.....
Posted by: Cat on 11:10am Fri 3 Oct 08
Tyler - is there any chance of you spelling correctly?
Tyler - is there any chance of you spelling correctly?
Posted by: jan on 11:14am Fri 3 Oct 08
NO if anyone hits my children i will hit them. bring children up right there will be no need for it.
NO if anyone hits my children i will hit them. bring children up right there will be no need for it.
Posted by: luce on 11:15am Fri 3 Oct 08
No Tyler, it gives me great pleasure to think you would not be able sit down for a week. oh a plus side for the stupid way you wear your trousers - half way down yer ar*e - it would hurt more.
No Tyler, it gives me great pleasure to think you would not be able sit down for a week. oh a plus side for the stupid way you wear your trousers - half way down yer ar*e - it would hurt more.
Posted by: anon, Dartford on 11:16am Fri 3 Oct 08
Tyler, people like you are fueling the fire on the decision to bring back the cane. The manner and aggressive nature in which your comments come a cross show a distinct lack of respect and do nothing for the reputation of todays mainly good pupils.
Tyler, people like you are fueling the fire on the decision to bring back the cane. The manner and aggressive nature in which your comments come a cross show a distinct lack of respect and do nothing for the reputation of todays mainly good pupils.
Posted by: luce on 11:16am Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]jan[/bold] wrote:
NO if anyone hits my children i will hit them. bring children up right there will be no need for it.[/quote] you got no worries then have you.
jan wrote:
NO if anyone hits my children i will hit them. bring children up right there will be no need for it.
you got no worries then have you.
Posted by: Jon Sellers, Blackfen on 11:22am Fri 3 Oct 08
No
Do not bring back the cane.
If my child is being rude or badly behaved then tell me and I will punish them as their parent.
The cane was a horrific barbaric form of discipline and does not encourage children to behave.
Children need to be disciplined and taught in a nonphysical way by their parents and teachers working together.
I was brought to be polite, respectful and well behaved because my parents installed strong values in me. Its the parents of these children who are the problem, too often I see parents screaming and swearing at their children, no wonder the child becomes a problem.
No
Do not bring back the cane.
If my child is being rude or badly behaved then tell me and I will punish them as their parent.
The cane was a horrific barbaric form of discipline and does not encourage children to behave.
Children need to be disciplined and taught in a nonphysical way by their parents and teachers working together.
I was brought to be polite, respectful and well behaved because my parents installed strong values in me. Its the parents of these children who are the problem, too often I see parents screaming and swearing at their children, no wonder the child becomes a problem.
Posted by: Tyler on 11:33am Fri 3 Oct 08
Respec to ma man Jon....the res of yol r clownz
Respec to ma man Jon....the res of yol r clownz
Posted by: John on 11:41am Fri 3 Oct 08
I have to agree with Jon, while the idea of disciplining the youth of today sounds great it really is not the way forward. How can we teach a child it’s wrong to hit a classmate by offering the deterrent of being hit himself?
I do not believe in being too soft in discipline but by earning a child’s respect through trust and not fear you can then install the lessons they need in later life.
I was more worried about disappointing my parents and teachers than I ever was of any physical intimidation.
I have to agree with Jon, while the idea of disciplining the youth of today sounds great it really is not the way forward. How can we teach a child it’s wrong to hit a classmate by offering the deterrent of being hit himself?
I do not believe in being too soft in discipline but by earning a child’s respect through trust and not fear you can then install the lessons they need in later life.
I was more worried about disappointing my parents and teachers than I ever was of any physical intimidation.
Posted by: luce on 11:50am Fri 3 Oct 08
yeh, but half the kids dont know who fathered them - even waynetta - the muvver dont know. so no worries about dissapointing mummy and daddy there.
yeh, but half the kids dont know who fathered them - even waynetta - the muvver dont know. so no worries about dissapointing mummy and daddy there.
Posted by: Tyler's Mum, on the sofa watching Jezza on 11:51am Fri 3 Oct 08
Tyler me little angel, any chance of you getting your a*se off that computer and going down the road and getting mummy’s cider and fags.
All you big bullies leave my little boy alone he would never deserve to get the cane, it was all a mistake the day he set the school alight, the stupid teacher gave him matches and Bunsen burner what do you expect.
Tyler me little angel, any chance of you getting your a*se off that computer and going down the road and getting mummy’s cider and fags.
All you big bullies leave my little boy alone he would never deserve to get the cane, it was all a mistake the day he set the school alight, the stupid teacher gave him matches and Bunsen burner what do you expect.
Posted by: Biscuit, Bromley on 11:52am Fri 3 Oct 08
Jon Sellers - do you not see the complete irony of your post?
Jon Sellers - do you not see the complete irony of your post?
Posted by: Tyler's Mum, still on the sofa watching Jerry Springer on 11:54am Fri 3 Oct 08
o i know who tylers dad is before you ask, it's big ron and he is in belmarsh on a ten stretch, he's a great role model for me boy
o i know who tylers dad is before you ask, it's big ron and he is in belmarsh on a ten stretch, he's a great role model for me boy
Posted by: j, 769-113 on 12:00pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Tyler[/bold] wrote:
All u oldies only lik da ideaz of kidz gettin da cane as ur pervs.....[/quote] Da Selecter, dem tunes are bangin innit
Tyler wrote:
All u oldies only lik da ideaz of kidz gettin da cane as ur pervs.....
Da Selecter, dem tunes are bangin innit
Posted by: Michelle on 12:09pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Violence breeds violence !
What would we be teaching children if we hit them with a cane when they have done something wrong ?
Violence breeds violence !
What would we be teaching children if we hit them with a cane when they have done something wrong ?
Posted by: Drew, Dartford on 12:11pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Yeah that would be a great idea canning some poor little sod for something minor, while the real bully who's dad has just done four years inside, whom the teachers are terrified off gets away with everything he f***ing likes.
Don't tell me it won't happen
Yeah that would be a great idea canning some poor little sod for something minor, while the real bully who's dad has just done four years inside, whom the teachers are terrified off gets away with everything he f***ing likes.
Don't tell me it won't happen
Posted by: Tyler's Mum, just having her first cider of the day on 12:18pm Fri 3 Oct 08
oi drew no one deserves the cane it doesn't matter if their dad is inside or not. my tyler is a good boy honest he is and he don't get away with nuffink, the police and the council are always keeping a good eye on im. it wasn't his fault those boys asked him to give em a lift in that escort, he wasn't to no it was stolen
oi drew no one deserves the cane it doesn't matter if their dad is inside or not. my tyler is a good boy honest he is and he don't get away with nuffink, the police and the council are always keeping a good eye on im. it wasn't his fault those boys asked him to give em a lift in that escort, he wasn't to no it was stolen
Posted by: no to the cane on 12:34pm Fri 3 Oct 08
On no account should the cane be bought back to our schools. As a child that was beaten by his father for bad behaviour and caned at school for the slightest bit of childs play/bad behaviour. I can assure you it will not teach any manors nor will it correct a childs behaviour, violence breeds further violence as well as resentment and contempt. And seeing most school teachers are jumped up little hitlers with head teachers being even worse you cannot allow them to become policemen, judge juror and excecutioner. Teachers fail to keep control of children for many reasons. They expect the child to act like an adult yet treat them like a 2 year old, demand respect but give ittle of it back. bully pupils and when telling a child off will always expect and explanation for the childs behaviour but wil never give a reason for their draconian pathetic rules ! Half of which have no bearing on the childs upbringing or education. There are only two types of people who should punish a child, its parents and a law court. No one else has the right to !
Rest assured if the cane is bought back they will not get my permission to cane my child and if any teacher did, well lets just say its dificult to cane someone when one is a paraplegic.
On no account should the cane be bought back to our schools. As a child that was beaten by his father for bad behaviour and caned at school for the slightest bit of childs play/bad behaviour. I can assure you it will not teach any manors nor will it correct a childs behaviour, violence breeds further violence as well as resentment and contempt. And seeing most school teachers are jumped up little hitlers with head teachers being even worse you cannot allow them to become policemen, judge juror and excecutioner. Teachers fail to keep control of children for many reasons. They expect the child to act like an adult yet treat them like a 2 year old, demand respect but give ittle of it back. bully pupils and when telling a child off will always expect and explanation for the childs behaviour but wil never give a reason for their draconian pathetic rules ! Half of which have no bearing on the childs upbringing or education. There are only two types of people who should punish a child, its parents and a law court. No one else has the right to !
Rest assured if the cane is bought back they will not get my permission to cane my child and if any teacher did, well lets just say its dificult to cane someone when one is a paraplegic.
Posted by: luce on 12:48pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Its quite simple, the cane is NOT being brought back for compulsory use, if you dont want it used on you, bl**dy well behave yourselves.
Its quite simple, the cane is NOT being brought back for compulsory use, if you dont want it used on you, bl**dy well behave yourselves.
Posted by: sue, orp on 1:09pm Fri 3 Oct 08
it never done us any harm in the 80s. BRING IT BACK! show these kids some respect.
it never done us any harm in the 80s. BRING IT BACK! show these kids some respect.
Posted by: Heard It All, Before on 1:13pm Fri 3 Oct 08
The problem is one of discipline. Not that the schools can't impose it, it's that the kids can't learn discipline for [bold]themselves[/bold] . I have no problem bringing back the cane. They had it when I went to school. I never got the cane because I never got into trouble.
The problem is one of discipline. Not that the schools can't impose it, it's that the kids can't learn discipline for
themselves . I have no problem bringing back the cane. They had it when I went to school. I never got the cane because I never got into trouble.
Posted by: Charlie, Lewisham on 1:29pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Tyler[/bold] wrote:
If da teacher tried ta whak me wit da cane I wood cane him bak wit a fist to the face.....[/quote] Have you had a stroke?
Tyler wrote:
If da teacher tried ta whak me wit da cane I wood cane him bak wit a fist to the face.....
Have you had a stroke?
Posted by: Lisa, Dartford on 1:36pm Fri 3 Oct 08
I believe that in the good old days the cane would have been a scary prospect to a child but sadly, the breed of downright evil, uncaring, selfish and vile creatures which roam and blight our schools these days,speaking and writing as if they were part of the ghettos of South Los Angeles instead of a semi detatched in Bexleyheath, would see getting the cane as an achievement, a badge of honnour for there rudeness, viciousness and disrespect.
The cane would not achieve this. The only thing which would work with these loathsome barbarians would be humiliation, to make them look small in front of their peers and strip them or their i-pods, phones, designer gear etc and make them analyse their own behaviour. Make like as uncomfortable and unpleasant for them as possible - and no I am not a stuffy oldie, I am 20 years old.
I believe that in the good old days the cane would have been a scary prospect to a child but sadly, the breed of downright evil, uncaring, selfish and vile creatures which roam and blight our schools these days,speaking and writing as if they were part of the ghettos of South Los Angeles instead of a semi detatched in Bexleyheath, would see getting the cane as an achievement, a badge of honnour for there rudeness, viciousness and disrespect.
The cane would not achieve this. The only thing which would work with these loathsome barbarians would be humiliation, to make them look small in front of their peers and strip them or their i-pods, phones, designer gear etc and make them analyse their own behaviour. Make like as uncomfortable and unpleasant for them as possible - and no I am not a stuffy oldie, I am 20 years old.
Posted by: Chantelle, Tyler's Bird, primark on 1:38pm Fri 3 Oct 08
o charlie lev it out. m'boyz kool n u no nuffink bout im. u suck
o charlie lev it out. m'boyz kool n u no nuffink bout im. u suck
Posted by: knowlsey, sidcup on 2:10pm Fri 3 Oct 08
If a teacher ever touched my kids with a cane I would be up the school and smash them with it.
If a teacher ever touched my kids with a cane I would be up the school and smash them with it.
Posted by: John on 2:14pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]sue[/bold] wrote:
it never done us any harm in the 80s. BRING IT BACK! show these kids some respect.[/quote] Show them respect by caning them!!
Good idea....I may show my wife some respect if I come in tonight 8 stellas to the wind and my dinner isn't ready!!
sue wrote:
it never done us any harm in the 80s. BRING IT BACK! show these kids some respect.
Show them respect by caning them!!
Good idea....I may show my wife some respect if I come in tonight 8 stellas to the wind and my dinner isn't ready!!
Posted by: Carparkattendant, Bexley on 2:15pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Caning is too good for them. Lock them up untill they are 18 then put them in the army!
Caning is too good for them. Lock them up untill they are 18 then put them in the army!
Posted by: luce on 2:17pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]knowlsey[/bold] wrote:
If a teacher ever touched my kids with a cane I would be up the school and smash them with it.[/quote] without asking what your litle darlings have done 1st ? got your number mate, bash 1st then ask questions ? great role model.
knowlsey wrote:
If a teacher ever touched my kids with a cane I would be up the school and smash them with it.
without asking what your litle darlings have done 1st ? got your number mate, bash 1st then ask questions ? great role model.
Posted by: Drew, Dartford on 2:31pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Tyler; get you arse down to T.K.Maxx quick their doing a great line in puffers with built in knives!!!
Tyler; get you arse down to T.K.Maxx quick their doing a great line in puffers with built in knives!!!
Posted by: Lisa, Dartford on 2:33pm Fri 3 Oct 08
With so many parents ready to assualt teachers for daring to bring their evil offspring into line, it is clear that society has completely broken down - which is why these parents need to be less blind and stop seeing their children as innocent little victims and wake up to teh reality that they are brutal, monstrous killinmg machines outside of humanity with utter evil intent and not a god thought for anyonme. Stop protecting them and protect society instead by having them disarmed and removed of any opportunity to perpetrate their vile acts.
With so many parents ready to assualt teachers for daring to bring their evil offspring into line, it is clear that society has completely broken down - which is why these parents need to be less blind and stop seeing their children as innocent little victims and wake up to teh reality that they are brutal, monstrous killinmg machines outside of humanity with utter evil intent and not a god thought for anyonme. Stop protecting them and protect society instead by having them disarmed and removed of any opportunity to perpetrate their vile acts.
Posted by: Chantelle, Swigging alchopops down the park on 2:48pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Drew[/bold] wrote:
Tyler; get you arse down to T.K.Maxx quick their doing a great line in puffers with built in knives!!![/quote] shut it drew me n tyler got matching puffas already
Drew wrote:
Tyler; get you arse down to T.K.Maxx quick their doing a great line in puffers with built in knives!!!
shut it drew me n tyler got matching puffas already
Posted by: Strict parent, Dartford on 2:53pm Fri 3 Oct 08
I wouldn't punch a teacher for hitting my child; I'd kick his teeth in.
I would never give permission for anyone too hit my child and would retaliate immediately if someone did.
Yes we do live in a society where respect has been lost and children run amuck, this can only be handled by the parents and we all know that's like talking too a brick wall for many?
I wouldn't punch a teacher for hitting my child; I'd kick his teeth in.
I would never give permission for anyone too hit my child and would retaliate immediately if someone did.
Yes we do live in a society where respect has been lost and children run amuck, this can only be handled by the parents and we all know that's like talking too a brick wall for many?
Posted by: Ted, Cryford, Kent on 2:53pm Fri 3 Oct 08
I only had the cane once at school. That was enough for me!
I saw boys who thought that they were tough, crying after having the cane. That blew their image big time!
I only had the cane once at school. That was enough for me!
I saw boys who thought that they were tough, crying after having the cane. That blew their image big time!
Posted by: knowlsey, sidcup on 2:57pm Fri 3 Oct 08
If a teacher is allowed to assault son then I will assault them.Nobody is allowed to hit my kids and you better bilieve I mean it you scumbags.
If a teacher is allowed to assault son then I will assault them.Nobody is allowed to hit my kids and you better bilieve I mean it you scumbags.
Posted by: Lisa, Dartford on 2:58pm Fri 3 Oct 08
The government should also be given permission to castrate repeat offenders so that they are unable to produce offspring and bring them up to be just like themselves
The government should also be given permission to castrate repeat offenders so that they are unable to produce offspring and bring them up to be just like themselves
Posted by: Drew, Dartford on 2:59pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Chantelle[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Drew[/bold] wrote: Tyler; get you arse down to T.K.Maxx quick their doing a great line in puffers with built in knives!!![/quote] shut it drew me n tyler got matching puffas already[/quote] Channi did you get the one with the knife or the one from the market that had the full hoody so you could go mugging without being recogised?
Chantelle wrote:
Drew wrote: Tyler; get you arse down to T.K.Maxx quick their doing a great line in puffers with built in knives!!!
shut it drew me n tyler got matching puffas already
Channi did you get the one with the knife or the one from the market that had the full hoody so you could go mugging without being recogised?
Posted by: Lisa, Dartford on 3:06pm Fri 3 Oct 08
How can parents defend their kids as if they were good and deserved to be treated fairly and juindly. THEY URE UTTERLY EVIL and would stab you as soon as lookat you so why stand up for teh rights that they do not deserve to have. They are loathsome vile creatures and even the ones that are better behaved are tainted by society anyway.
Perhaps if parents stopped defending them and disowned them it would be a wake up call
How can parents defend their kids as if they were good and deserved to be treated fairly and juindly. THEY URE UTTERLY EVIL and would stab you as soon as lookat you so why stand up for teh rights that they do not deserve to have. They are loathsome vile creatures and even the ones that are better behaved are tainted by society anyway.
Perhaps if parents stopped defending them and disowned them it would be a wake up call
Posted by: Chantelle, just about to nick 3 cans of stella on 3:11pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Drew[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Chantelle[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Drew[/bold] wrote: Tyler; get you arse down to T.K.Maxx quick their doing a great line in puffers with built in knives!!![/quote] shut it drew me n tyler got matching puffas already[/quote] Channi did you get the one with the knife or the one from the market that had the full hoody so you could go mugging without being recogised?[/quote] nah drew none of that cheap market cr*p
i wear a scarf so no1 nos its me
Drew wrote:
Chantelle wrote: Drew wrote: Tyler; get you arse down to T.K.Maxx quick their doing a great line in puffers with built in knives!!!
shut it drew me n tyler got matching puffas already
Channi did you get the one with the knife or the one from the market that had the full hoody so you could go mugging without being recogised?
nah drew none of that cheap market cr*p
i wear a scarf so no1 nos its me
Posted by: Tyler on 3:11pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Wats ya all fusing for ya foolz....
Man ya can cane me but beware dat does not kilz me only makes uz stronger....peaze out
Wats ya all fusing for ya foolz....
Man ya can cane me but beware dat does not kilz me only makes uz stronger....peaze out
Posted by: Tyler's Mum, waiting to go the bingo on 3:14pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Tyler son, on the way home get come KFC for u n da little uns. Is Charn staying tonight love?
Tyler son, on the way home get come KFC for u n da little uns. Is Charn staying tonight love?
Posted by: Chantelle, Tyler's Bird, kfc on 3:22pm Fri 3 Oct 08
ty babi do u wan chips. i got da gear for l8r c u by da pond
**** luvz u babi boyz ****
ty babi do u wan chips. i got da gear for l8r c u by da pond
**** luvz u babi boyz ****
Posted by: Charn, cherchill gardens park thingyplace on 3:23pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Nah cos i got tagged issit
Nah cos i got tagged issit
Posted by: The Real Chantelle, at ty's gaff on 3:37pm Fri 3 Oct 08
oi biatch trying 2 b me. i aint got no tag i no u is jst tying 2 get me boy off me no chance u is rank
its an asbo not a tag
oi biatch trying 2 b me. i aint got no tag i no u is jst tying 2 get me boy off me no chance u is rank
its an asbo not a tag
Posted by: Chatelle, still at ty's on 3:39pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]knowlsey[/bold] wrote:
If a teacher ever touched my kids with a cane I would be up the school and smash them with it.[/quote] fanks dad
knowlsey wrote:
If a teacher ever touched my kids with a cane I would be up the school and smash them with it.
fanks dad
Posted by: Spanky, Cane City on 3:53pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Oh, I loved the cane at school. You should have seen the hunk that gave it to us girls!
Oh, I loved the cane at school. You should have seen the hunk that gave it to us girls!
Posted by: Mr Jones, Mr Jones house on 3:55pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Bringing back caning is an excellent idea, but who in their right mind would risk the wrath of the drunken, mindless, feckless moron of a parent, who would be up the school like a shot to breathe fags and booze over them whilst they were swinging wildly at them?
How about a fully trained, sworn in, “caner”, who comes around say once a month like the Circuit Judge of the old West? The little dears could sweat on it for a while and their gin filled parents would face serious charges if any attempt was made to assault the “caner”
If they fail to turn up for their punishment wheel the whole family into an assessment centre for family dynamics training and if they fail to turn up for that stop their benefits.
Bringing back caning is an excellent idea, but who in their right mind would risk the wrath of the drunken, mindless, feckless moron of a parent, who would be up the school like a shot to breathe fags and booze over them whilst they were swinging wildly at them?
How about a fully trained, sworn in, “caner”, who comes around say once a month like the Circuit Judge of the old West? The little dears could sweat on it for a while and their gin filled parents would face serious charges if any attempt was made to assault the “caner”
If they fail to turn up for their punishment wheel the whole family into an assessment centre for family dynamics training and if they fail to turn up for that stop their benefits.
Posted by: Spanky, Cane City on 3:58pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Bring back the cane, bring back the cane. I am chanting the above lyrics to my favourite [bold]Sweets[/bold] record.
Bring back the cane, bring back the cane. I am chanting the above lyrics to my favourite
Sweets record.
Posted by: Spliff king, Dartford on 4:09pm Fri 3 Oct 08
I'm over the moon that schools and parents alike want their children too get canned, if anyone wants help in getting some quality gear let me know?
I have the best skunk in the county!!!!
I'm over the moon that schools and parents alike want their children too get canned, if anyone wants help in getting some quality gear let me know?
I have the best skunk in the county!!!!
Posted by: Spanky, Cane City on 4:15pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Strict parent[/bold] wrote:
I wouldn't punch a teacher for hitting my child; I'd kick his teeth in. I would never give permission for anyone too hit my child and would retaliate immediately if someone did. Yes we do live in a society where respect has been lost and children run amuck, this can only be handled by the parents and we all know that's like talking too a brick wall for many? [/quote] Oh I would love you to be my mum. I could then end up like the thugs we are surrounded by and learn nothing, rob my grandmother and probably end up killing my parents!!
Strict parent wrote:
I wouldn't punch a teacher for hitting my child; I'd kick his teeth in. I would never give permission for anyone too hit my child and would retaliate immediately if someone did. Yes we do live in a society where respect has been lost and children run amuck, this can only be handled by the parents and we all know that's like talking too a brick wall for many?
Oh I would love you to be my mum. I could then end up like the thugs we are surrounded by and learn nothing, rob my grandmother and probably end up killing my parents!!
Posted by: Toker, Spliv Palace on 4:19pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Spliff king[/bold] wrote:
I'm over the moon that schools and parents alike want their children too get canned, if anyone wants help in getting some quality gear let me know? I have the best skunk in the county!!!! [/quote] Great! Are you on the PM - I'll send you my address.
Spliff king wrote:
I'm over the moon that schools and parents alike want their children too get canned, if anyone wants help in getting some quality gear let me know? I have the best skunk in the county!!!!
Great! Are you on the PM - I'll send you my address.
Posted by: Samantha, petts wood on 4:50pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Reading some of the comments on here is quite amusing and the content of some of the comments is the exact reason why canning will never be bought back.
I'm 21 and left school at 14 I left school not because i was kicked out or a problem child but because I was bored.
A lot of badly behaved children wouldn't misbehave if they were engaged in learning in a way that they could relate to and that made sense to them.
I recently worked at a secondary school with a very bad reputation a teacher being stabbed amongst the reasons for it's reputation. The children there even had a security team with all teachers having walkie talkies so that they could contact the security.
The problem with the schooling system is that the discipline is not followed through. Teachers will not punish the children because they are frightened of parents storming into the school and verbally and physically abusing them because they have attempted to control their little darling.
The discipline system that is in place will work if the threat of parental intervention is eliminated.
My parents were very strict yet my scholl wasn't i feared my parents more than i did school and therefore behaved at school because i didn't want to have to answer to my parents for any bad behaviour. I was bought up to be polite, well mannered and respectful and still am and although I left school at 14 I began working not long after as well as studying at college and now have a very good job. I know right from wrong and this is due to my parents and the fact that my parents would back my school up in any way they could if i did happen to get a detention or whatever because my parents knew that they and the school had to show a united front so that I knew i could not play one off against the other
Reading some of the comments on here is quite amusing and the content of some of the comments is the exact reason why canning will never be bought back.
I'm 21 and left school at 14 I left school not because i was kicked out or a problem child but because I was bored.
A lot of badly behaved children wouldn't misbehave if they were engaged in learning in a way that they could relate to and that made sense to them.
I recently worked at a secondary school with a very bad reputation a teacher being stabbed amongst the reasons for it's reputation. The children there even had a security team with all teachers having walkie talkies so that they could contact the security.
The problem with the schooling system is that the discipline is not followed through. Teachers will not punish the children because they are frightened of parents storming into the school and verbally and physically abusing them because they have attempted to control their little darling.
The discipline system that is in place will work if the threat of parental intervention is eliminated.
My parents were very strict yet my scholl wasn't i feared my parents more than i did school and therefore behaved at school because i didn't want to have to answer to my parents for any bad behaviour. I was bought up to be polite, well mannered and respectful and still am and although I left school at 14 I began working not long after as well as studying at college and now have a very good job. I know right from wrong and this is due to my parents and the fact that my parents would back my school up in any way they could if i did happen to get a detention or whatever because my parents knew that they and the school had to show a united front so that I knew i could not play one off against the other
Posted by: It's not right, Bromley on 4:55pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Just this week in a local school, a pupil beat up a teacher so badly that the teacher suffered a broken finger, countless bruises and cuts to his neck, throat and face and had his shirt practically ripped off his back.
And why? Because the teacher didn’t give the pupil the grades he wanted.
Admittedly the pupil gave the teacher 5 seconds to change the grade ([bold]not an error[/bold] !), and when the teacher refused, the pupil counted down from 5…the teacher stood his ground and received a hiding.
I’m not saying bringing back the cane is the right thing to do [bold]but surely something has got to change[/bold] !
Just this week in a local school, a pupil beat up a teacher so badly that the teacher suffered a broken finger, countless bruises and cuts to his neck, throat and face and had his shirt practically ripped off his back.
And why? Because the teacher didn’t give the pupil the grades he wanted.
Admittedly the pupil gave the teacher 5 seconds to change the grade (
not an error !), and when the teacher refused, the pupil counted down from 5…the teacher stood his ground and received a hiding.
I’m not saying bringing back the cane is the right thing to do
but surely something has got to change !
Posted by: mr me, kent on 7:07pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Tyler[/bold] wrote:
If da teacher tried ta whak me wit da cane I wood cane him bak wit a fist to the face.....[/quote] idiot
Tyler wrote:
If da teacher tried ta whak me wit da cane I wood cane him bak wit a fist to the face.....
idiot
Posted by: Paul on 7:12pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Lisa, carry on taking the happy pills love...and stop believeing every thing you read in the media ffs. Try and take the time to get to know some of todays youth, its only a minority that are out of control, the press just blow it into something bigger than it really is. As for idiots saying bring back the cane and district caners or what ever, and then go on to slag the parent accusing them of being smokers and boozers, how very childish and pathetic, no wonder the youth of today have no respect for such mindless morons who agree with the toture and physical abuse of minors !
If you cane a child for doing somethng wrong you idiots, you are teaching them that its ok to use violence when someone wrongs you ! are you so retarded you cant grasp that concept ? or is it your so far up your own arse that your big head wont come out anymore ????
FACT OF LIFE FOR THE BRAIN DEAD IDiOTS ! VIOLENCE BREEDS VIOLENCE. YOU DONT FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE.
I have a 23 year old son who has never been in trouble with the law, but was never caned by a teacher and they was not allowed to give them detention. If my child needed punishment It was my job to do it, and i would be the judge of the severity of the punishment. I also have 14 and 15 year old daughters, again the school is not allowed to punish them, if there is a problem they contact me and I, as their parent, deal with it. Now I am not a smoker, a drugy or a drunk, but if anyone, I dont care who they are, ever, laid a finger on any of my kids, they wouldnt have to worry about me swinging wildly, I would simply rip their arms off and beat what was left of them to death with them. I would never and could never disown one of my children either lisa, if you was a decent parent you would understand that, but your not, your just an idiot !
Lisa, carry on taking the happy pills love...and stop believeing every thing you read in the media ffs. Try and take the time to get to know some of todays youth, its only a minority that are out of control, the press just blow it into something bigger than it really is. As for idiots saying bring back the cane and district caners or what ever, and then go on to slag the parent accusing them of being smokers and boozers, how very childish and pathetic, no wonder the youth of today have no respect for such mindless morons who agree with the toture and physical abuse of minors !
If you cane a child for doing somethng wrong you idiots, you are teaching them that its ok to use violence when someone wrongs you ! are you so retarded you cant grasp that concept ? or is it your so far up your own arse that your big head wont come out anymore ????
FACT OF LIFE FOR THE BRAIN DEAD IDiOTS ! VIOLENCE BREEDS VIOLENCE. YOU DONT FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE.
I have a 23 year old son who has never been in trouble with the law, but was never caned by a teacher and they was not allowed to give them detention. If my child needed punishment It was my job to do it, and i would be the judge of the severity of the punishment. I also have 14 and 15 year old daughters, again the school is not allowed to punish them, if there is a problem they contact me and I, as their parent, deal with it. Now I am not a smoker, a drugy or a drunk, but if anyone, I dont care who they are, ever, laid a finger on any of my kids, they wouldnt have to worry about me swinging wildly, I would simply rip their arms off and beat what was left of them to death with them. I would never and could never disown one of my children either lisa, if you was a decent parent you would understand that, but your not, your just an idiot !
Posted by: Poor Dad, Bromley on 7:54pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Ladies and Gentlemen, it is easy to throw insults and abuse around, but some of us readers would really like to [bold]discuss[/bold] this issue.
I am the father of two very young black children and the thought of them growing up in this current climate petrifies me. I only mention the fact that they are black because of the poor statistics that black children have (although [bold]this is neither gender nor race specific[/bold] !).
Growing up, I was subjected to the cane and it hasn’t done me any lasting damage…with the Human Rights Act and such like the situation it is unlikely to be reversed.
So can any of the readers give suggestions because our children are the future of this country and where its heading is not particularly encouraging.
I do dote on my kids and I would be willing to concede that I may spoil them a little, I am an upstanding member of my community but short of a magic wand, [bold]I am not proud to ask for a little help…[/bold]
Ladies and Gentlemen, it is easy to throw insults and abuse around, but some of us readers would really like to
discuss this issue.
I am the father of two very young black children and the thought of them growing up in this current climate petrifies me. I only mention the fact that they are black because of the poor statistics that black children have (although
this is neither gender nor race specific !).
Growing up, I was subjected to the cane and it hasn’t done me any lasting damage…with the Human Rights Act and such like the situation it is unlikely to be reversed.
So can any of the readers give suggestions because our children are the future of this country and where its heading is not particularly encouraging.
I do dote on my kids and I would be willing to concede that I may spoil them a little, I am an upstanding member of my community but short of a magic wand,
I am not proud to ask for a little help… Posted by: Corpral Punishment, Misses Office ! on 8:21pm Fri 3 Oct 08
ahhhhhhh the swishy cane !
ahhhhhhh the swishy cane !
Posted by: Melissa, meopham on 11:11pm Fri 3 Oct 08
How on earth would bringing back physical punishment work? If an adult is suspected of doing something illegal they go through many processes before they are actually punished (if they are found guilty), and even then that punishment does not ever involve violence. So where can it be right that a child who really does not have much of a voice in society can be taken by adults and subjected to a violent, physical punishment, that no adult would ever be subject to? I also wonder who would be prepared to deliver such a punishment? I can not think of anyone at my child's primary school that would be prepared to do so for several reasons, firstly, they love childen and are there to teach and encourage them, not to harm them, also they would not want to expose themselves to the problems and possible accusations that could come flying their way!! Supposing they got it wrong... wrong child for instance.. or supposing someone accuses them of getting some sort of sexual kick out of it? But before all of this.. my main reason for being against this is that violence can only ever breed violence. The only message you give to a child by hitting them is that 'causing physical pain to another human being gets results', that is awful. Todays children are already seeing too much violence, video games, dvds, the news... Perhaps if parents actually interacted with their children, went to the park and kicked a ball or played good old games instead of just sticking them in front of the latest computer games or x rated movie things might be a bit better. It is not the kids with the problem, it is the parents.. if the government wants to give out punishments.... give it to the people responsible for the well-being of our future adults....their parents!! Especially the parents that sit on their backsides all day long in front of the telly and ignoring their children.... wake up and look after your children... put down the remote control, or your can of beer or your fag, get off your sofa and go to the bloody park!!!!
How on earth would bringing back physical punishment work? If an adult is suspected of doing something illegal they go through many processes before they are actually punished (if they are found guilty), and even then that punishment does not ever involve violence. So where can it be right that a child who really does not have much of a voice in society can be taken by adults and subjected to a violent, physical punishment, that no adult would ever be subject to? I also wonder who would be prepared to deliver such a punishment? I can not think of anyone at my child's primary school that would be prepared to do so for several reasons, firstly, they love childen and are there to teach and encourage them, not to harm them, also they would not want to expose themselves to the problems and possible accusations that could come flying their way!! Supposing they got it wrong... wrong child for instance.. or supposing someone accuses them of getting some sort of sexual kick out of it? But before all of this.. my main reason for being against this is that violence can only ever breed violence. The only message you give to a child by hitting them is that 'causing physical pain to another human being gets results', that is awful. Todays children are already seeing too much violence, video games, dvds, the news... Perhaps if parents actually interacted with their children, went to the park and kicked a ball or played good old games instead of just sticking them in front of the latest computer games or x rated movie things might be a bit better. It is not the kids with the problem, it is the parents.. if the government wants to give out punishments.... give it to the people responsible for the well-being of our future adults....their parents!! Especially the parents that sit on their backsides all day long in front of the telly and ignoring their children.... wake up and look after your children... put down the remote control, or your can of beer or your fag, get off your sofa and go to the bloody park!!!!
Posted by: Mark, Dartford on 6:31am Sat 4 Oct 08
I think it is to late for any type of punishment.The element of kids that do not have any respect, comes from generations, that also do not.Sadly, most towns, late at night, are not safe to walk around.You only have to read the local news daily, to see this.Of course it is the parents faults.NO one else is responsible for their kids bad behaviour.
I think it is to late for any type of punishment.The element of kids that do not have any respect, comes from generations, that also do not.Sadly, most towns, late at night, are not safe to walk around.You only have to read the local news daily, to see this.Of course it is the parents faults.NO one else is responsible for their kids bad behaviour.
Posted by: GOD, UP ERE on 7:58am Sat 4 Oct 08
You doughnuts on here that think your comments are funny, do you realise that there are many young people around, (normally with stunning fashion sense and a penchant for bad tracky bots and scruffy trainers)who really speak like this and would agree with your comments. Boy, are they going to have a good life!!
You doughnuts on here that think your comments are funny, do you realise that there are many young people around, (normally with stunning fashion sense and a penchant for bad tracky bots and scruffy trainers)who really speak like this and would agree with your comments. Boy, are they going to have a good life!!
Posted by: Mark, Dartford on 10:10am Sat 4 Oct 08
So, how come then, we have countless numbers of teens on the street,with no respect to anyone else?
Who is to blame?
Sorry, I forgot to add they might be the next 'Pop idol' that will influence the rest.
So, how come then, we have countless numbers of teens on the street,with no respect to anyone else?
Who is to blame?
Sorry, I forgot to add they might be the next 'Pop idol' that will influence the rest.
Posted by: Drew, Dartford on 10:19am Sat 4 Oct 08
We need to re-educate the parents of children who behave badly not punish the child, when we have children we don't need any special qualifications or demonstrate too anyone that we know how to parent.
Everyone I know left hospital with this bundle of joy that wet, poo'd and screemed it's needs, when they started crawling all the ornaments had to be lifted off the floor for their protection.
At two the tantrums started and they became little demons when upset.
How many people out there lost their temper at this point and started smacking the child? How many started swearing at them? And how many started too lose control and ignore certain bad behaviour like swearing and hitting?
Children need guidelines on behaviour, shown respect and praised when they do well. Doing this when a child is between ten and sixteen and doing GCSE's is too late. And not the job of the teaching staff?
We need to re-educate the parents of children who behave badly not punish the child, when we have children we don't need any special qualifications or demonstrate too anyone that we know how to parent.
Everyone I know left hospital with this bundle of joy that wet, poo'd and screemed it's needs, when they started crawling all the ornaments had to be lifted off the floor for their protection.
At two the tantrums started and they became little demons when upset.
How many people out there lost their temper at this point and started smacking the child? How many started swearing at them? And how many started too lose control and ignore certain bad behaviour like swearing and hitting?
Children need guidelines on behaviour, shown respect and praised when they do well. Doing this when a child is between ten and sixteen and doing GCSE's is too late. And not the job of the teaching staff?
Posted by: Puff Daddy on 11:36am Sat 4 Oct 08
[quote][bold]knowlsey[/bold] wrote:
If a teacher is allowed to assault son then I will assault them.Nobody is allowed to hit my kids and you better bilieve I mean it you scumbags.[/quote] Private Knowlsey of the Pioneer Corps, our hero. You illiterate oaf. Stick to digging out shi tters, you know its what you do best.
Who's ya daddy Knowlsey ?
knowlsey wrote:
If a teacher is allowed to assault son then I will assault them.Nobody is allowed to hit my kids and you better bilieve I mean it you scumbags.
Private Knowlsey of the Pioneer Corps, our hero. You illiterate oaf. Stick to digging out shi tters, you know its what you do best.
Who's ya daddy Knowlsey ?
Posted by: molly, woolwich on 2:35pm Sat 4 Oct 08
KNOWSLEY - U dnt by ne chance belong to the fathers of justice campaign do u??
Its sounds like u r an ova protective father who is no longer with there mother!! U want 2sort it out m8, they look up 2u, and from the way u r portraying ur self on here, u r the 1 that sounds lke the scum bag wiv no brains or sense and therefore i recommend ur kids get put in2 care so that they can b raised around ADULTS and not figure like urself. RETARD
KNOWSLEY - U dnt by ne chance belong to the fathers of justice campaign do u??
Its sounds like u r an ova protective father who is no longer with there mother!! U want 2sort it out m8, they look up 2u, and from the way u r portraying ur self on here, u r the 1 that sounds lke the scum bag wiv no brains or sense and therefore i recommend ur kids get put in2 care so that they can b raised around ADULTS and not figure like urself. RETARD
Posted by: m, greenwich on 3:00pm Sat 4 Oct 08
the cane should never have been banned in the first place but to bring it back now would be hell for the teachers.
the cane should never have been banned in the first place but to bring it back now would be hell for the teachers.
Posted by: Oracle, Bexleyheath on 8:43am Sun 5 Oct 08
What started out as a reasonably serious comment thread seems now to have lost direction.
A shame really as it is a very "social" issue that everybody wants fixed but nobody really wants to find the solution.
If I thought for one moment that my comments or opinions would or could make a difference then I might add them here.
For now, though, I feel compelled only to let society, through its own inadequacies, dissolve down its own self built drain.
What started out as a reasonably serious comment thread seems now to have lost direction.
A shame really as it is a very "social" issue that everybody wants fixed but nobody really wants to find the solution.
If I thought for one moment that my comments or opinions would or could make a difference then I might add them here.
For now, though, I feel compelled only to let society, through its own inadequacies, dissolve down its own self built drain.
Posted by: Steve, Dartford on 8:58am Sun 5 Oct 08
Bring back the cane for the parents, who have inflicted their scum off spring, who blight our lives.
Bring back the cane for the parents, who have inflicted their scum off spring, who blight our lives.
Posted by: Jenny, Bexleyheath on 9:48am Sun 5 Oct 08
Unfortunately, the cane won't bring back discipline. These feral children are generally the offspring of white mothers who don't seem to form lasting bonds with the father. Multi-children, multi-fathered, brought up in an environment where theiur mothers have no respect for themselves. How on earth can we hope they will have any respect for any one else when they are brought up in such a climate?
Unfortunately, the cane won't bring back discipline. These feral children are generally the offspring of white mothers who don't seem to form lasting bonds with the father. Multi-children, multi-fathered, brought up in an environment where theiur mothers have no respect for themselves. How on earth can we hope they will have any respect for any one else when they are brought up in such a climate?
Posted by: Dan, Orpington on 11:24am Mon 6 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Tyler[/bold] wrote:
If da teacher tried ta whak me wit da cane I wood cane him bak wit a fist to the face.....[/quote] What more can you say, something needs to be done to tackle blatant illiteratacy.
Tylers comment shows what a disgrace the education system is now.
It is no wonder so many children fail their exams nowadays.
It seems this 'text speak' or what ever you want to call it, is creeping in everywhere.
If something is not done soon we risk, as a nation, becoming an illiterate society.
The priory School for example is proud to announce that 60% of their pupils received the much needed 5 GCSE's at grade A-C.
6 out of 10 pupils getting the necessary grades for college.
I dont know what your feelings are, but if mediocrity is to be applauded then it does not bode well for the future of the country.
It is the blatant disregard for authorities that is to blame so lets start with caning in schools,and while i think of it, what about the town bobbies being able to dispense a clip round the ear when necessary. (reviewing my comments its important to know im 30 yrs old, not 60+ as my comments may suggest)
Tyler wrote:
If da teacher tried ta whak me wit da cane I wood cane him bak wit a fist to the face.....
What more can you say, something needs to be done to tackle blatant illiteratacy.
Tylers comment shows what a disgrace the education system is now.
It is no wonder so many children fail their exams nowadays.
It seems this 'text speak' or what ever you want to call it, is creeping in everywhere.
If something is not done soon we risk, as a nation, becoming an illiterate society.
The priory School for example is proud to announce that 60% of their pupils received the much needed 5 GCSE's at grade A-C.
6 out of 10 pupils getting the necessary grades for college.
I dont know what your feelings are, but if mediocrity is to be applauded then it does not bode well for the future of the country.
It is the blatant disregard for authorities that is to blame so lets start with caning in schools,and while i think of it, what about the town bobbies being able to dispense a clip round the ear when necessary. (reviewing my comments its important to know im 30 yrs old, not 60+ as my comments may suggest)
Posted by: ClockWatcher, Welling on 11:28am Mon 6 Oct 08
When I was a child, there was no greater fear than dissapointing my Mum and Dad.
I was never hit, but received a lot of lectures and I have HUGE respect for my parents, my family and myself.
I do not need to 'act big' to others and I have no respect for those that do.
Kids today do not have strong role models and have not been taught how to behave. They have no respect for themselves or anyone else.
I doubt the cane would make any difference to their behaviour, it's the parents that need to install morality and values in them, it's not the schools job.
When I was a child, there was no greater fear than dissapointing my Mum and Dad.
I was never hit, but received a lot of lectures and I have HUGE respect for my parents, my family and myself.
I do not need to 'act big' to others and I have no respect for those that do.
Kids today do not have strong role models and have not been taught how to behave. They have no respect for themselves or anyone else.
I doubt the cane would make any difference to their behaviour, it's the parents that need to install morality and values in them, it's not the schools job.
Posted by: Dan, Orpington on 11:37am Mon 6 Oct 08
[quote][bold]jan[/bold] wrote:
NO if anyone hits my children i will hit them. bring children up right there will be no need for it.[/quote] Jans comment explains it all.
It is obvious for all to see it is parents like you that give your children their 'gung ho' attitude.
In a modern society, where violent crime is becoming obvious that perhaps the children of today are not to blame and it is indeed their parents (yes im referring to Jan here) who teach their children by example that it is indeed O.K. to use violence as a means to getting their own way.
Perhaps if these people where subjected to corparal punishment, as children then this country would not be in the state it is in now!
jan wrote:
NO if anyone hits my children i will hit them. bring children up right there will be no need for it.
Jans comment explains it all.
It is obvious for all to see it is parents like you that give your children their 'gung ho' attitude.
In a modern society, where violent crime is becoming obvious that perhaps the children of today are not to blame and it is indeed their parents (yes im referring to Jan here) who teach their children by example that it is indeed O.K. to use violence as a means to getting their own way.
Perhaps if these people where subjected to corparal punishment, as children then this country would not be in the state it is in now!
Posted by: Me, Orpington on 11:52am Mon 6 Oct 08
[quote][bold]jan[/bold] wrote:
NO if anyone hits my children i will hit them. bring children up right there will be no need for it.[/quote] Yes, and your exactly the reason why we should have it. Yes I agree that children should be brought up correctly however you are a good example of were a child is disciplined you want to knock someone out.We should all take the responsibility for ensuring people behave responsibly
jan wrote:
NO if anyone hits my children i will hit them. bring children up right there will be no need for it.
Yes, and your exactly the reason why we should have it. Yes I agree that children should be brought up correctly however you are a good example of were a child is disciplined you want to knock someone out.We should all take the responsibility for ensuring people behave responsibly
Posted by: Dick Dolphin on 6:29pm Mon 6 Oct 08
Forget the cane - introduce instruments of torture
Forget the cane - introduce instruments of torture
Posted by: Dazman, SE20 8TT on 9:31am Tue 7 Oct 08
I agree, i never had the cane when i was at school, but I could always see that it would've helped bring some form of discipline to the more unruly kids. Whenever I think of how the kids used to confront teachers in my classes it is quite disappointing and puts me off being a teacher myself!!! Even I can openly admit I wouldn't have done half the stuff I used to get away with if I knew I'd get beats for it!!!
I agree, i never had the cane when i was at school, but I could always see that it would've helped bring some form of discipline to the more unruly kids. Whenever I think of how the kids used to confront teachers in my classes it is quite disappointing and puts me off being a teacher myself!!! Even I can openly admit I wouldn't have done half the stuff I used to get away with if I knew I'd get beats for it!!!
Posted by: Lea, DA8 on 1:29pm Tue 7 Oct 08
If parents do not have the right to punish their children using such force, then why should teachers have the right?
If parents do not have the right to punish their children using such force, then why should teachers have the right?
Posted by: Dazman, SE20 8TT on 1:38pm Tue 7 Oct 08
This also needs to be changed, kid's have the power to undermine authority far too easily, it's ridiculous! i'm in my mid-20s but I'd love to have seen how many of my old school mates would've turned out if they'd been properly disciplined, instead of having the power to stand up to teachers and parents. This must be changed, especially in London, it's outta hand now!
This also needs to be changed, kid's have the power to undermine authority far too easily, it's ridiculous! i'm in my mid-20s but I'd love to have seen how many of my old school mates would've turned out if they'd been properly disciplined, instead of having the power to stand up to teachers and parents. This must be changed, especially in London, it's outta hand now!
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